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Old 06-08-2013, 09:51 PM   #1
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2v N/A build?

Does anyone have any build plans for a 2v 4.6, anything would be helpful, tips, links to plans, or personal experience?

Im shooting for about 400 hp to the wheels, if thats possible for a streetable car, Any info helps... Thanks
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Sadly not really for a 2v...you'll spend way more on bolt ons than just adding forced induction.
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You won't get 400 to the wheels NA
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There is at least one 5.4L 2V over the 400whp mark all motor. TFS heads, I forget what cams and meticulously port matched intake adapters to an Edelbrock intake.

In all honesty the 4.6L needs boost. You can get in the 350+ range with a 4V all motor but just get a supercharger. Cheaper than a NA build, more power, really no downside except that you have to make sure you keep it at around 400/400 on the stock rods.
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This guy got 341whp... With a light rotating assembly, forged pistons a lil higher cr i think its very possible...

NOBODY HAS FAITH IN THE 2v!!!

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A stroker kit is an option too... Im sure theres some info out there, na is badass and money is not a problem... I need info not people telling me to go forced induction
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This guy got 341whp... With a light rotating assembly, forged pistons a lil higher cr i think its very possible...

NOBODY HAS FAITH IN THE 2v!!!

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A stroker kit is an option too... Im sure theres some info out there, na is badass and money is not a problem... I need info not people telling me to go forced induction
I think it will only stroke to a 5.2. Just buy the 5.0 forge bottom end, upgraded heads, cam. That will get you a pretty good number too

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5.0 forged bottom end is only about 1300 and cones with everything you need to swap it over
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If you run some ridiculously high compression on race gas and spin it past 8k rpm yeah you can hit a high number. For a street car... not saying it can't be done ever but you'd spend many $thousands more than the guy next to you with the stock motor and a tork tech and a much better powerband.
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Ok... How about a ground up 350 whp build
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Ok... How about a ground up 350 whp build
Just buy a junk yard 5.4 and forge the bottom end, twisted wedge heads and cam and you'll be over 400 to the wheels. Had a lightning and did that and had 600 to the wheels until the block cracked in half.. 5.4 motors are strong and we will all envy you if you do that
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Just buy a junk yard 5.4 and forge the bottom end, twisted wedge heads and cam and you'll be over 400 to the wheels. Had a lightning and did that and had 600 to the wheels until the block cracked in half.. 5.4 motors are strong and we will all envy you if you do that
Will a 5.4 bolt up?
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Will a 5.4 bolt up?
http://youtu.be/_szWGFvnz0k
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Does a 5.4 bolt right it, do i need a new wireing harness ecu, stuff like that i dont really want to do, i want to get as much power na while staying streetable, if thats not enough when im done ill go forced induction
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Does a 5.4 bolt right it, do i need a new wireing harness ecu, stuff like that i dont really want to do, i want to get as much power na while staying streetable, if thats not enough when im done ill go forced induction
http://youtu.be/Z1bcMXFDTfQ

Check these out. You probably need a new Ecu for it but that's a price you have to pay. In the end it will make you smile ear to ear every time

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You can get a 5.4 out of a stock f150 na and I believe those are 375 at the crank
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I have faith in 2v's...just cheaper and smarter to boost and get more power than less power for more money
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I have faith in 2v's...just cheaper and smarter to boost and get more power than less power for more money
2vs are no slouches when built up.
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http://youtu.be/T5uZxWILDQQ


That's a 2003 lightning swap and at 3000 rpms he has 486 horse power to the wheels.... At 5000 I'm sure he is well over 550. That's what a supercharged 5.4 can do and that's way more than a supercharged 4.6 can do safely
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Ill be building up my 2v...but its a slow process. Im saving $ to buy land and build a house with the fiancé as well.

But ill be doing forced induction
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Im probly going to get a nice stroker kit, have my block bored to 5l, comp cams, trickflow heads, and beehive valvesprings... Nice intake manifold, and tubular headers... If i write out a build plan and add it all up and i dont like it, ill just sell my 03 gt and buy a foxbody
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Check these out. You probably need a new Ecu for it but that's a price you have to pay. In the end it will make you smile ear to ear every time

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You can get a 5.4 out of a stock f150 na and I believe those are 375 at the crank
That what I was wondering because we have a wreck f150 with the 5.4 were parting out..
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Shop around for a 94-06 markIII n grab that ecm and motor, youtube has wiring instructions and drop it in. 32valve fast n cheap. Then bolt on a s/c then you might see 400 -450 at the crank n maybe cheaper than building your 2v
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That's a 2003 lightning swap and at 3000 rpms he has 486 horse power to the wheels.... At 5000 I'm sure he is well over 550. That's what a supercharged 5.4 can do and that's way more than a supercharged 4.6 can do safely
The 5.4L has the same weak con rods as the 4.6L. They are a little stronger but nothing to write home about and for any serious application the rods/pistons need to be replaced. Also, stock terminator motors make stupid stupid amounts of power and they are 4.6L. 425 to the wheels with a simple pulley, catback and tune, 550 to the wheels with a ported blower, upgraded to a KB and 600+ easy, even more with a turbo swap. Really no reason to not stick with a 4.6L unless you are doing a max NA build.

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Shop around for a 94-06 markIII n grab that ecm and motor, youtube has wiring instructions and drop it in. 32valve fast n cheap. Then bolt on a s/c then you might see 400 -450 at the crank n maybe cheaper than building your 2v
Don't even need the ECM, the 2V ECM can run it just fine. The Mark VIII swap is a cheap/common swap to move yourself up to 4V and its a solid gain over the PI motor. Few disadvantages would be the B heads and the IMRCs/gunking up of the split intake port (the one that does not see fuel spray). Also the Cobra intake is going to run a solid $500 and is better than the MKVIII intake although you can run the Mark intake. There are a million writeups on how to do the MKVIII swap, they are not a direct drop in but its pretty simple honestly.

Anyway for what the OP wants to do there is no reason to do anything to the 2V he has right now. Leave that alone and do a supercharger and a fuel system to support it. Instant 400 to the wheels, stock driveability, stock gas mileage and its reliable.
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