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Old 06-16-2013, 06:40 AM   #1
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Catless in California

im concidering going catless anybody from socal that has ditched em any suggestions, prices, places, cool ppl and any attention from the po-lice lol do they check jus tryna get a ballpark mindset on the feeling
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It's not worth it to me to have to change out exhaust components every time I need to smog my car(or pay $200 to pass my car illegally). High flow cats aren't much more restrictive than a catless exhaust. But it's definitely up to you.
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It's not worth it to me to have to change out exhaust components every time I need to smog my car(or pay $200 to pass my car illegally). High flow cats aren't much more restrictive than a catless exhaust. But it's definitely up to you.
where do i find those and yu have a vaild point about that tho didnt even think about that
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Im not catless but im runnin bbk lts and catted shorty, no problems with the popo. ****s pretty loud, im gonna get an offroad h soon. I havent had to smog it yet though. Im changin registration to another state though here soon so i wont have to smog it. Just dont feel like chancing it
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where do i find those and yu have a vaild point about that tho didnt even think about that
You can buy a catted x or h pipe, they will both have high flow cats. They are more expensive than O/R h and x pipes though.
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Im not catless but im runnin bbk lts and catted shorty, no problems with the popo. ****s pretty loud, im gonna get an offroad h soon. I havent had to smog it yet though. Im changin registration to another state though here soon so i wont have to smog it. Just dont feel like chancing it
yea im not tryna chance it either but i have a coworker who is catless nd he said the cops dnt check nd hes been pulled over quite a few times he says im gonna try the high flow cats with the borla catback system should be pretty beefy from wut i heard

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You can buy a catted x or h pipe, they will both have high flow cats. They are more expensive than O/R h and x pipes though.
yea i jus saw a system for 800 bucks lol would it be bad to buy the high flows separate nd add them to it, do i have to buy for sheesh all this is new to me jus got the mustang in feb so sorry for all the questions
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I ran an offroad pipe for 7 years in Delaware/New Jersey and got pulled over probably 3 or 4 times during that period and the cops NEVER checked under my car once. Probably because I didn't have a ridiculoulsy loud exhaust on that car. On the other hand, my buddy in Wisconsin had almost the same catback as me, put an offroad pipe on and got pulled over THE SAME DAY and fined for being catless and had to go get an inspection within 48 hours or have the car impounded.

Honestly just run cats, high flow cats cost you almost no power and the car can still sound great. I've got a catted BBK H pipe to Dynomax Thrush chambered mufflers to 2.5" stainless tails and it sounds great. When I get on it the exhaust really screams and its still pretty throaty down low too. And its one less thing to worry about.
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I ran an offroad pipe for 7 years in Delaware/New Jersey and got pulled over probably 3 or 4 times during that period and the cops NEVER checked under my car once. Probably because I didn't have a ridiculoulsy loud exhaust on that car. On the other hand, my buddy in Wisconsin had almost the same catback as me, put an offroad pipe on and got pulled over THE SAME DAY and fined for being catless and had to go get an inspection within 48 hours or have the car impounded.

Honestly just run cats, high flow cats cost you almost no power and the car can still sound great. I've got a catted BBK H pipe to Dynomax Thrush chambered mufflers to 2.5" stainless tails and it sounds great. When I get on it the exhaust really screams and its still pretty throaty down low too. And its one less thing to worry about.

good to know my decision is definitely changing as we speak looking for catted x pipe and then a borla catback system most definitely im on AM they have exactly wut i need jus dnt wanna wait im wondering if a muffler shop will have the catted x-pipe
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Watch our for Borla's catbacks, they used to be only 2.25" diameter pipes, unsure if that is still true but was the last time I bought a catback. I HIGHLY recommend Magnaflow for a 99-04 car. Fully stainless, amazing quality, straight through just like borla and the tips are 3.5" and fill up the exhaust arches in the bumper perfectly. Mach those tips with some stainless bumper letter inserts and its pretty sick looking.
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Watch our for Borla's catbacks, they used to be only 2.25" diameter pipes, unsure if that is still true but was the last time I bought a catback. I HIGHLY recommend Magnaflow for a 99-04 car. Fully stainless, amazing quality, straight through just like borla and the tips are 3.5" and fill up the exhaust arches in the bumper perfectly. Mach those tips with some stainless bumper letter inserts and its pretty sick looking.
yea i like the borla sound over the magnaflow sound ive heard both nd borla is where im leaning ive heard borla is better from a performance stand point but im not tryna build a track car jus a car that runs good and sounds good i mean it is my daily driver after all i have the flowmaster 40s on it now it sounds beefy i jus noticed brola has a deeper raspier sound that really wakes up the car
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From a performance standpoint, all the catbacks are within a few HP of each other until you get into the REALLY big power numbers like 600whp+.
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Changing you're midpipe doesn't take more than 30 mins and that's not bad for having to do it once ever two years. That's what I do, I have an off road x pipe and swap out my cats whenever I need to pass smog. With high flows it will be slightly louder but nowhere near close to an offroad
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I have an o/r prochamber, I have the stock midpipe also, so when it's time to smog I change it out. Once every 2 years is t that bad.
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It is illegal to tamper with the exhaust system. Go ask any muffler shop in CA, or many other states, about the fines. Used to be that guys would just remove the guts out of their cats and put them back on. I have had the displeasure of sitting in line at an emissions check point, (Yep, just like a DUI check point) in a truck that had everything smog related removed. All the way down to, the gas nozzle size restrictor in the filler neck had been knocked out to run leaded fuel when you still could get it. They waived the two cars ahead of me in and waived me through. SHEWWWWW... That was a close one. So it can happen that you get caught randomly, or, like Scotty's friend, meet up with a cop that is a Chevy guy and wants to make your day miserable. Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending how you want to look at it, I think that the budget constraints of most government agencies have curbed the spot checks for right now. Just beware that it can happen.
Sidenote: Here in CA, the birthplace of the country's emissions laws, there are still counties were you do not have to get a smog check every two years. Only when the vehicle transfers ownership...
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so an off-road x-pipe doesnt have cats or does it and high flow cats how does all this work i really need an explanation of these things bcuz i wanna run hi cats with an off road x-pipe with the borla catback system sheesh
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so an off-road x-pipe doesnt have cats or does it and high flow cats how does all this work i really need an explanation of these things bcuz i wanna run hi cats with an off road x-pipe with the borla catback system sheesh
An off road system is simply no cats. That's what makes it off road. The x pipe you want is a catted x pipe.
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An off road system is simply no cats. That's what makes it off road. The x pipe you want is a catted x pipe.
O ok thank yu for clearing that up
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An off road system is simply no cats. That's what makes it off road. The x pipe you want is a catted x pipe.
Exactly
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O ok thank yu for clearing that up
Off road is technically illegal but no one really stops you or cares. Well that's the southeast redneck country lol California is a different story.
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Off road is technically illegal but no one really stops you or cares. Well that's the southeast redneck country lol California is a different story.
Yea i know i live in probably the worst state possible as far as laws **** i need to move to taxes or sumthin lol long highways **** sum are not even patrolled lol California is always a different story there's a law for everything =___=
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Yea i know i live in probably the worst state possible as far as laws **** i need to move to taxes or sumthin lol long highways **** sum are not even patrolled lol California is always a different story there's a law for everything =___=
Makes no sense. Y'all can have drugs but not have fun with your cars.... I guess I'm not smart enough for that logic
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Makes no sense. Y'all can have drugs but not have fun with your cars.... I guess I'm not smart enough for that logic
Tell me about it we can't raise Em up to high or lower them to low exhaust can't be to loud it's ridiculous
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