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Old 06-18-2013, 05:23 AM   #1
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What would i need to beat a 5.0

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Pretty much stock here 5spd Mach1

Those things are quick for being stock!!
Any ideas? Lol

I'm doing a eaton swap soon, but for the mean time, I don't think bolt ons will put me there.

Although they are heavy. And they can come with 373s .. Fml
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giggle juice...125 wet shot its a fair race
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:25 AM   #3
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Will u be ditching the Mach shaker setup?
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giggle juice...125 wet shot its a fair race
Lol man , little worried about that

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Will u be ditching the Mach shaker setup?
Hmmmm If I can fit the shaker above the eaton I will, if not ill sell it for a cowl
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You'll need to finish your eaton swap ! Lol! Or nitros!
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You'll need to finish your eaton swap ! Lol! Or nitros!
Hahahaha yea but the eaton will deff get you there to beat out a stock 5.0
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You'd be surprised what a bolt on 4V can do vs a 5.0. The new 5.0s run mid 12s in stock form, you can beat that with bolt ons and a tune. Yes 400+hp but you've got a big weight advantage in your car. A Mach with bolt ons/tune/great driver is an 11 second car. Also there is the guy in the other lane. A stock automatic 5.0 will consistantly run a mid-high 12 all day at the track if the guy launches ok. Sticks won't have the same consistancy and if the driver sucks and you are good there is your edge. Take the car to the track and find out, you can paper horsepower it all day but go see what she can do. Sticky tires and a solid 60 ft time go a long way to make up a HP difference.

And regardless, there is always going to be someone faster. You can go all out to beat those stock 5.0s, and then a dude with a 408 stroker and a 250 shot of sauce runs a 9 in the lane next to you. And then an all out powerglide turbo whatever goes even faster lol. He who has the fattest wallet wins.
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You'd be surprised what a bolt on 4V can do vs a 5.0. The new 5.0s run mid 12s in stock form, you can beat that with bolt ons and a tune. Yes 400+hp but you've got a big weight advantage in your car. A Mach with bolt ons/tune/great driver is an 11 second car. Also there is the guy in the other lane. A stock automatic 5.0 will consistantly run a mid-high 12 all day at the track if the guy launches ok. Sticks won't have the same consistancy and if the driver sucks and you are good there is your edge. Take the car to the track and find out, you can paper horsepower it all day but go see what she can do. Sticky tires and a solid 60 ft time go a long way to make up a HP difference.

And regardless, there is always going to be someone faster. You can go all out to beat those stock 5.0s, and then a dude with a 408 stroker and a 250 shot of sauce runs a 9 in the lane next to you. And then an all out powerglide turbo whatever goes even faster lol. He who has the fattest wallet wins.
Best time so far at the track completely stock 13.3@106-107 2.2-2.3 60ft

That was when I didn't really have a driver mod

I'm going back soon as I get suspesnion and tires.

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Funny thing is I know a guy with a 2011 bolt on 5.0 running 13.9-14.5! When we go to the track lol
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Slow, the shaker scoop will fit above the M112 and still fit in the factory mounting hole in the hood. Of course it won't be functional anymore and takes some fabrication work for the mounts, but I've seen it done countless times and it is WICKED looking under the hood with the blower snout peeking out from under the shaker mounting brackets.
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Funny thing is I know a guy with a 2011 bolt on 5.0 running 13.9-14.5! When we go to the track lol
Pull his Mustang card.
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Pull his Mustang card.
Lol yes that guy can't drive!
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Lol yes that guy can't drive!
Lmfao!!!!
He said his tune was bad or something
Very funny it was a 6spd
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Lmfao!!!!
He said his tune was bad or something
Very funny it was a 6spd
Yeah, he needs to stick an SCT up his butt and re-tune the driver.
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Lmfao!!!!
He said his tune was bad or something
Very funny it was a 6spd
That's such bull a monkey could pull a 12 in that thing
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That's such bull a monkey could pull a 12 in that thing
Nope, there are some AWFUL manual drivers out there, like... terribad. You will find that the 5.0 autos espeically ones with a good tune to firm up the shift points will be running faster than a similarly modded stick. But like I said 12s are not fast at the 1/4 track, hell even 11s aren't really when dudes are rolling in with 9 and 10 second street cars. Really just go to have fun and see what your car can do. If you beat someone great, if you lose that's fine too as long as your time was what you were shooting for. Someone will always be faster.
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Upgrade your suspension control arms helped me out a lot! If you run slicks you'll need to install a safety loop on your drive shaft but that's a good idea IMO on a car that will run in the 12's -11's easy.
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Lol man , little worried about that

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Hmmmm If I can fit the shaker above the eaton I will, if not ill sell it for a cowl
If u sell let me know
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You can fit the eaton under the shaker, its been done plenty of times. You are still limited to 400-425whp safely due to the stock rods though which sucks. The good news is the Machs have the light WAP blocks and hopefully this one has the 03.5-up revised heads.
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You can fit the eaton under the shaker, its been done plenty of times. You are still limited to 400-425whp safely due to the stock rods though which sucks. The good news is the Machs have the light WAP blocks and hopefully this one has the 03.5-up revised heads.
Which machs have the forged crank? And is it just crank?
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All the 5 spd machs have the forged cranks, all autos have the cast cranks. This means precisely dick in a motor where the rods are the weak link although it gets made a huge deal out of for some reason... Nobody ever mentions how the SYM2 computers that come in the auto Machs are the only OEM SN95/New Edge computers fast enough to keep up with the shift points of a sub 10 second car. And are plug and play with any 99-04 V8 automatic and therefore highly sought after.
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All the 5 spd machs have the forged cranks, all autos have the cast cranks. This means precisely dick in a motor where the rods are the weak link although it gets made a huge deal out of for some reason... Nobody ever mentions how the SYM2 computers that come in the auto Machs are the only OEM SN95/New Edge computers fast enough to keep up with the shift points of a sub 10 second car. And are plug and play with any 99-04 V8 automatic and therefore highly sought after.
I've never built an engine before, do you have to take it apart to replace the rods? Or can you do it through the bottom after dropping the oil pan?
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No, it requires a complete rebuild to do the rods. The pistons are not the greatest either. Super cheapie rebuild that I am looking to do with my Teksid as long as my bores check out is terminator rods/pistons and the OEM Cobra forged crank I already have. Sub $1k forged shortblock woot woot. But your bores have to be within stock spec to do it. My block is very clean and lower mileage and I'm hoping it will check out.
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No, it requires a complete rebuild to do the rods. The pistons are not the greatest either. Super cheapie rebuild that I am looking to do with my Teksid as long as my bores check out is terminator rods/pistons and the OEM Cobra forged crank I already have. Sub $1k forged shortblock woot woot. But your bores have to be within stock spec to do it. My block is very clean and lower mileage and I'm hoping it will check out.
Reason I was asking about the Mach motors is I have a buddy who I was trying to talk into giving me his cobra motor tranny that's been sitting for a while. A guy with a Mach offered him 6k for it. I told him if he does it to do the $ and the engine coming out of the Mach. But I'll probably just beg him to give it to me . Good friend and I'm offering him other deals. Not as good as 6k but if he will bite ill take that motor/tranny off his hands. Btw it's a 03 w/ Kenny bell and a t56
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