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Old 07-23-2013, 08:50 PM   #1
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Unhappy 2000 GT won't Start!!

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I have a 2000 GT that I had to put in the garage for about 18 months. When I pulled it out, I had to replace the battery. The car cranks great, but won't start. Just keeps cranking and the engine isn't even trying to turn over. Does anyone have any suggestions??

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You got gas? My old Mazda did the same and turned out I had no gas
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I heard after about a month or so of just sitting the gas goes bad or evaporates or something like that. I cant remember where i read it but yeah try what venomous suggested make sure theres gas!
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If you think about it, it could be only two things. Its getting no spark, or getting no fuel. Start from there.
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Filled the car to half tank. The car has spark. I took out the #1 coil and put a spark plug in it and attempted to fire it up and there was a spark. After trying this for an entire day, I let the car sit for another 2 weeks. When I returned, the car started up like normal and then shut off 1 and a half minutes later. Now back to same issue all cranking, no engine kicking in.
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Filled the car to half tank. The car has spark. I took out the #1 coil and put a spark plug in it and attempted to fire it up and there was a spark. After trying this for an entire day, I let the car sit for another 2 weeks. When I returned, the car started up like normal and then shut off 1 and a half minutes later. Now back to same issue all cranking, no engine kicking in.
Check the schrader valve on the fuel rail and see if you are getting fuel. If not, first thing to check is the inertia switch (fuel safety shut off) in the truck. It's located behind the trunk liner on the driver side. It will be a big red button and it should be pushed down at all times.

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I heard after about a month or so of just sitting the gas goes bad or evaporates or something like that. I cant remember where i read it but yeah try what venomous suggested make sure theres gas!
After 30 days ethanol breaks down and can clog the fuel system. Ethanol also draw moisture and leaves behind a varnish on the inside of the line and injectors over time.
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Well, I had 1/4 tank of gas in the car when I put it away 18 months ago. When I took it out, it was on E, so I put 1/2 tank into it. Would this cause the car not to start if the 1/4 tank evaporated and clogged the system??

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Ok, what is the Schrader valve?? One of my friends stated that there is a valve or switch near the A/C compressor that I can press. They said if gas leaks/sprays out of it, then i'm getting fuel.
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[QUOTE=Ok, what is the Schrader valve?? One of my friends stated that there is a valve or switch near the A/C compressor that I can press. They said if gas leaks/sprays out of it, then i'm getting fuel.[/QUOTE]

That's the schrader valve. It's on the passenger fuel rail. It has a black cap on it and you push it like a tire stem
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Oh, I thought that was part of the A/C and didn't want to get frost bite... Ok, I'll check it now. Does the car need to be in the on position, or can the car be off when checking it??
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The ac valve is over there too lol. The one you want is made into the fuel rail
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Ok, so does the car need to be in the on position, or can it be off to test it??
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My educated guess is that it's a fuel pump.
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Ok, so does the car need to be in the on position, or can it be off to test it??
Have one person cycle the key on and back off while you hold the valve open. It's should spray out when the key cycles on
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Fuel pump is shot. Sits way too long with bad gas and it deteriorated the pump. Thats my opinion since its happened to my jaguar i let it sit for a year and i replaced the pump cause it went bad while sitting. You dont need someone to cycle the key to see fuel pressure. You could depress the schrader valve first to see fuel pressure then cycle key from iff to on and depress the valve again to see if it shoots out fuel. It must shoot it out not drops or come out soft. Another thing is you can hear the pump to see if it kicks on. Our pumps are loud enough to hear with the key on and the engine off. See if u can hear the pump prime first as well.
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Check the fuel pressure. Go to a parts store most of them will rent you one. That will for sure tell you if its the fuel pump. My dads 2000 GT did this and it turned out to be his Pats system. His key had to be reprogrammed and it started right up.
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ok, so the anti theft light is not blinking while trying to start the car. Someone mentioned to me that the PATS (?? whatever that is) could be the cause, but the anit theft light would be blinking while starting. And it isn't. Also, I put the car in the on position and went to press the valve. no gas sprayed out. Also, i checked the shut off swith in the trunk and it is pressed down which I am guessing that is where it is supposed to be.

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[QUOTE=CodyNelson;1732880]Check the schrader valve on the fuel rail and see if you are getting fuel. If not, first thing to check is the inertia switch (fuel safety shut off) in the truck. It's located behind the trunk liner on the driver side. It will be a big red button and it should be pushed down at all times.


Cody, I checked all of the above. The valve isn't spraying anything or leaking anything. I don't have a 2nd person to help me check while I am turning the key on and off and am just doing it myself. Even after cranking, there is no spray from the valve.
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My guess would be fuel pump also. With sitting for so long and part of the pump would be out of the fuel at a quarter tank the seals could dry out and fail when you re pressurize the system. Adding more fuel to the tank would possibly slow the leak allowing enough fuel to flow for a start but not enough to keep running.
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My guess would be fuel pump also. With sitting for so long and part of the pump would be out of the fuel at a quarter tank the seals could dry out and fail when you re pressurize the system. Adding more fuel to the tank would possibly slow the leak allowing enough fuel to flow for a start but not enough to keep running.

True, but it would have some of the fuel leaking out from underneath the car with a broken seal. And there is nothing leaking. After checking everything that was suggested, I might as well replace the fuel pump. But I heard that there is a way to test the fuel pump before I need to waste time and money to replace it. Something about it showing a voltage?? Does anyone know about a way to test it first??
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I was talking about the seals in the pump itself. When trying to pump fuel it would leak back into the tank dropping pressure in the line but not leaking on the ground. All you would need to do is have someone lay under the rear of the car to listen for the fuel pump to prime the system before a start and just turn the key to the run position but don't engage the starter. If you don't hear the pump its bad. Also you could try replacing the fuel filter. It could be clogged. That would need replacing anyway after a long hibernation and is cheap. Best of luck to you. By the way my car is a 2000 gt with 195300 miles on it. The fuel pump went out at around 175000.
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So, the pump is working fine. But I'm not getting gas from the tank to the motor. Any other ideas on where i should begin??
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Fuel filter?
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Have you checked the inertia switch in the trunk
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Have you checked the inertia switch in the trunk
The pump would work if the switch was bad
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Fuel filter?
The fuel filter was replaced with a new one right before I put the car into the garage.

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Have you checked the inertia switch in the trunk
The switch is pressed correctly. How can I check to see if the switch is bad??
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I have a 2003 gt but the schrader valve is not on the passenger fuel rail any idea where its at

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I have an 03 gt no start new intake install now no start. Dies right away idles rough any help??
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I have a 2003 gt but the schrader valve is not on the passenger fuel rail any idea where its at

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I have an 03 gt no start new intake install now no start. Dies right away idles rough any help??
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If it cranks but won't stay running maybe the IAC idle air control.
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Same thing happened to me, check the crank position sensor, it's by the ac compressor
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The pump would work if the switch was bad
Incorrect the pump would not work if the switch was bad. It would immobilize it if its inoperative. I had it happen on a ranger good pump bad inertia switch. The schrader valve is on the driver side near the alternator. If its not coming out under pressurr...the fuel that is... then it could be a faulty inertia switch or the wires might be toast to it or in other cases the pump is shot.
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Incorrect the pump would not work if the switch was bad. It would immobilize it if its inoperative. I had it happen on a ranger good pump bad inertia switch. The schrader valve is on the driver side near the alternator. If its not coming out under pressurr...the fuel that is... then it could be a faulty inertia switch or the wires might be toast to it or in other cases the pump is shot.
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I have a 2003 gt but the schrader valve is not on the passenger fuel rail any idea where its at

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I have an 03 gt no start new intake install now no start. Dies right away idles rough any help??

All Schrader valves on the 99-04 GT's are located on the fuel rail. Not sure if they are all on the passenger side, but it would be located on the fuel rail.

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Ok guys, I finally replaced the bleeping fuel pump, fuel filter, and the kill switch relay just for the heck of it. I hear the fuel pump priming when turning the ignition key on but not starting the car. And still not starting and nothing shooting out of the Schrader valvle!!! WTF!!!

Any other ideas on what I need to do to get gas to the engine besides pouring it in directly.

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Damn man, sounds like you replaced everything that was in question lol. I guess the only other thing could be a clogged fuel line. Gas sitting for 18 months is never good esp if you didn't put Stab-Il in it. I think it sounds like it probably turned to jelly in your fuel lines.
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Damn man, sounds like you replaced everything that was in question lol. I guess the only other thing could be a clogged fuel line. Gas sitting for 18 months is never good esp if you didn't put Stab-Il in it. I think it sounds like it probably turned to jelly in your fuel lines.
Well it randomly started for about 2 minutes and idled on its own. When I went to rev it, it died. So the fuel lines couldn't be clogged since I put half a tank of gas and the car started temporarily??
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This is a long shot... But if happened to my old Honda: check the air flow. Did a mouse build a nest in the intake or exhaust? You're not throwing any codes right? Could be your fuel
Injectors, take them out and clean them.
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