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Old 08-16-2013, 08:04 AM   #1
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So I've been searching for a aftermarket crank shaft for my 00 GT Auto, but I can't find none but forged cobra's.

My question is, do they make them? I'm forging my internals soon and want to get the best out of my 2v. Sorry for my n00bness
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:57 AM   #2
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Check out summit. I believe they sell a complete lower end rebuild kit both stock and forged versions. The stock crank isn't the weak link in the 2V though, but that all depends on what kind of power you want.
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What do you consider the weak link and I'm doing the most N/A before FI
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Rods and pistons
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Yup, most definitely
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Well most times its the connecting rods. But the better approach would be to figure out your game plan, and build your engine around that. If you bought an eagle forged rotating assembly, that should be good for most people's needs. Or check into a complete short block from the various reputable 4.6 engine builders.

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Haha beat me to it while I was writing my post......
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Are you building this around a turbo/supercharger? Or building it as bad as you can then adding FI
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Well yeah I'm getting those too, when I pull the crank out I'm doing forged pistons. But I mean do they have any that has a good compression ratio

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Are you building this around a turbo/supercharger? Or building it as bad as you can then adding FI
Bad as it can be before FI. I already got new roller rockers, springs, lifters and edelbrock jr manifold (all needs to be installed) I haven't looked into heads tho
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You're gonna want low compression for FI. But you can get any combo of dished pistions from flat top to 18+CC's. I'd stick with the factory 18CC's if your doing FI down the road.
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You're gonna want low compression for FI. But you can get any combo of dished pistions from flat top to 18+CC's. I'd stick with the factory 18CC's if your doing FI down the road.
Do you have a description or write up of differences of piston tops like what your saying?
I never knew what makes them different
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Not a specific write up, but what is means is the piston top is concave to allow additional room for air in the cumbustion chamber. They measure it in CC's, thus a bigger dish in a piston will equate to a lower compression ratio; generally speaking. If you are a visual person, I'd recommend to google it, and there is a plethora of info on the subject.
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That's what I'm doing now, so low compression for FI, so that's the reason, why when ppl put a FI system on stock GT motors, they only get so much HP right?
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Well no, that's more with the lack of an extra exhuast and intake valve. The 2V in Stock form doesn't breathe that great, when compared to a 4V

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Stock 2V (99-04) is around 9 to 1 compresssion ratio. Lower compression is better because it essentially packs more air (and when tuned more fuel and spark) for a better combustion and more power

This link (although from a crap-maro site is useful)

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/po...induction.html
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Just follow the muscle mustang build for 750hp.

Done deal and proven on a dyno.

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I'll find it and link it here
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Thank you guys a lot for all the input
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Cobra cranks are forged. Might as well pick one up seeing as they're common.
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Cobra cranks are forged. Might as well pick one up seeing as they're common.
They are a damn good crank as well
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Here's how to build a lower end for a blower..
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I have a question about that build. They couldn't have used stock pistons and rods for that so what did they use?? Unless i misread it and it said...
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