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Old 08-20-2013, 08:26 PM   #1
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Rear gears again

Ok, does anyone have 4.56 on their auto? This is a hell of a good deal. Please enlighten me on some info y'all, I still have my mind kinda set in the 4.10s tho...
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Ok, does anyone have 4.56 on their auto? This is a hell of a good deal. Please enlighten me on some info y'all, I still have my mind kinda set in the 4.10s tho...
IMHO, stick with 3.73, 3.55 or stock gearing. If you ever decide to F/I your car you're going to burn through first gear probably second as well with 4.10's or higher. 3.73's are fun enough on their own too.

Also if you ever decide to F/I your car and take it to the track you're going to have no breathing room down the stretch with 4.10's or higher. It already has short ratio's.
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N00b question here. How do the drag cars have such good take off if some of them are automatics?
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Built autos are better than manuals
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Built autos are better than manuals
+1 majority are auto or powerglide, also a 4.56 is kinda silly for a DD
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Built autos are better than manuals
I know that but I'm talking as far as take off or launching ya know
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Ok, does anyone have 4.56 on their auto? This is a hell of a good deal. Please enlighten me on some info y'all, I still have my mind kinda set in the 4.10s tho...
Go 4.30 or 4.10 kid ...
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Go 4.30 or 4.10 kid ...
Trust me I'm not gonna get em
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N00b question here. How do the drag cars have such good take off if some of them are automatics?
Because they have drag slicks, high stall converters and more than 2k horsepower.
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Because they have drag slicks, high stall converters and more than 2k horsepower.
I think he means just regular cars that drive to the track, click off a 10 second 1/4 and then drive home with the AC on and stop at the grocery store to pick up dinner lol.

Built auto will come off the line harder than any stick due to the torque multiplication of the converter. Also they shift faster and more consistently than the stick ever could.
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I think he means just regular cars that drive to the track, click off a 10 second 1/4 and then drive home with the AC on and stop at the grocery store to pick up dinner lol.

Built auto will come off the line harder than any stick due to the torque multiplication of the converter. Also they shift faster and more consistently than the stick ever could.
Exactly Scott. Ima research more on built automatics
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A built one will run you about $2k, then another $600-$1000 for the converter, $250 for the cooler... lines... Actually less than a Magnum will run and about the same as a TKO 600/bellhousing with a really nice clutch.

And depending on your year an automatic is a 99% bolt in. 99-03 can take any 97.5-03 4r70W trans, 04s use 4r75Ws. You can interchange the years though if you do a simple OSS pulse wheel count change in the EEC.

And before this thread turns into yet ANOTHER auto vs stick debate... it really does boil down to personal preference. If your preference is banging gears or handling keep the stick. If you want to run the fastest times possible and come off the line like a raped ape with its hair on fire then get a built auto.
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This is strictly bout automatics if new ppl wants to chime in, I've been looking on AM at shift kits and transmission valve kits that gives it better/tire chirping shifts and I'm looking for a stall that can handle cams and good with take off
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:34 AM   #17
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This is strictly bout automatics if new ppl wants to chime in, I've been looking on AM at shift kits and transmission valve kits that gives it better/tire chirping shifts and I'm looking for a stall that can handle cams and good with take off
Everyone will tell you j mod over shift kits and **** for the auto. Most likely.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:42 AM   #18
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Yeah know, but when it comes to rigging something's rather not
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It's all in the tires for my two cents, if you can't lock to the ground you ain't going now where "fast" - "get it"
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It's all in the tires for my two cents, if you can't lock to the ground you ain't going now where "fast" - "get it"
+1 tires are one of the most important things
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+1 tires are one of the most important things
I'm running some michelin sport tires for now
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Yeah know, but when it comes to rigging something's rather not
The j mod is not rigging whatsoever. The guy who helped design the aode/4r trans developed it lol.
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Yeah J-mod = Jerry's Mod = Jerry Wroblewski = Ford Engineer who helped design the 4R transmissions. It's not some hack that some dude came up with in his backyard, its one of the guys who designed the damn thing basically saying "this is how you optimize my design for performance".

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A built one will run you about $2k, then another $600-$1000 for the converter, $250 for the cooler... lines... Actually less than a Magnum will run and about the same as a TKO 600/bellhousing with a really nice clutch.

And depending on your year an automatic is a 99% bolt in. 99-03 can take any 97.5-03 4r70W trans, 04s use 4r75Ws. You can interchange the years though if you do a simple OSS pulse wheel count change in the EEC.

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I read that the 04's came with the TR-3650. Or is it actually 4r75w? Or both??I know the jmod is done on the 4r70w's but can it be done on the 75 as well?

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I read that the 04's came with the TR-3650. Or is it actually 4r75w? i know the jmod is done on the 4r70w's but can it be done on the 75 as well?
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I read that the 04's came with the TR-3650. Or is it actually 4r75w? Or both??I know the jmod is done on the 4r70w's but can it be done on the 75 as well?

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It's both. The 4r75w is the auto and the tr-3650 is the manual option.
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