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Old 09-05-2013, 06:46 AM   #1
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Is this a good find for an Engine?

I think I just struck gold because i just have a stock SOHC and was looking for something to build up for the winter!

4.6L V-8 Teskid Aluminum block w 4V heads, perfect for your Mustang
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:51 AM   #2
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I think I just struck gold because i just have a stock SOHC and was looking for something to build up for the winter!

4.6L V-8 Teskid Aluminum block w 4V heads, perfect for your Mustang
Holy **** yeah
I'd jump on that for my car to build on the side , only bad thing those blocks suck for supercharger applications ..
But would be a good NA set up,

The people Who make Porsches motors , made that block..
Now depending if those are B or C heads .. If they are C your golden pony boy even the 1st C heads you'll be alright
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How would it be bad for supercharging? Thats ultimately what i Will be doing.. What are the downfalls to it then? But thanks! Im asking about it. Hopefully he'll get back to me!
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How would it be bad for supercharging? Thats ultimately what i Will be doing.. What are the downfalls to it then? But thanks! Im asking about it. Hopefully he'll get back to me!
.. It's aluminum , gets hot fast.. Supercharger = alot of heat

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Lol fools gold maybe.

1- that is likely out of a Mark viii so it'll have the cast crank and mark cams.

2- A good teksid can be had for $200 easy

3- those are b heads, you want c heads

4- you are going to need to completely tear it down and rebuild it as the stock internals are crap.


That is a $300 unit max. You can often get b heads for free. I would pass if you can't get it for $250. I picked up a teksid and forged crank out of a 98 cobra for that price.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:48 AM   #6
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Yeah Ferrari basically made those. Probably came from a Mark VIII. Definitely a good buy as long as its in the shape the seller says it is. Heck, even if its not, a teksid block goes for around 350 where I am, and some 4V C heads are easily 350-400 as well. I'd definitely go check it out in person. And you can boost them, but you'll need to forge it. but he's right about the heat factor.
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Whats the difference between b and c heads? And ill be putting in all new internals so im not too worried about that. I just like the teksid and DOHC. I want to get my stang over 500whp and i think i can get there easier with a DOHC vs a SOHC. I would want to supercharge it later-ish so whats the route i should go with this thing?
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Whats the difference between b and c heads? And ill be putting in all new internals so im not too worried about that. I just like the teksid and DOHC. I want to get my stang over 500whp and i think i can get there easier with a DOHC vs a SOHC. I would want to supercharge it later-ish so whats the route i should go with this thing?
B heads should as well be thrown over a cliff into a volcano

You can see a DOHC over 500rwhp with 10,000k
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Whats the difference between b and c heads? And ill be putting in all new internals so im not too worried about that. I just like the teksid and DOHC. I want to get my stang over 500whp and i think i can get there easier with a DOHC vs a SOHC. I would want to supercharge it later-ish so whats the route i should go with this thing?
You need to slow down and do a LOT of research if you don't even know the difference between the B and C heads, much less the differences in the C heads. The heads on that engine are B heads, I can tell just by looking at the pics. $500 for that motor is a rape UNLESS it is out of a Cobra and therefore has the 96-98 Cobra cams which would make it worthwhile. Out of a Mark, that is a $200-$300 piece and for the block and the front cover. The B heads are good for boat anchors or guys running over 25 psi of boost via a big turbo. You want C heads plain and simple. Even the 99/01 C heads are good pieces, ppl get all cray cray about getting the 03-up heads but the power difference is marginal.
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thanks! Im in the process of rebuilding my 4.6 right now, and getting Real close to being done with it. Just waiting on some main bearings... But i know ill go boosted later. I just need to build a block up for my hp range im going for!
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.. It's aluminum , gets hot fast.. Supercharger = alot of heat

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Yeah, why is that?
If you've ever welded any aluminum, then you know that it takes a lot more heat to weld than steel does. It takes more heat because it dissipates the heat so rapidly.
I've never heard this about aluminum blocks before.
There used to be a "school of thought" that you could get more power from cast iron heads than aluminum because they retained the heat better. But with aluminum, you can, usually run a higher compression ratio than with cast iron because of the better heat dissipating qualities.
Confusing huh?
I can't imagine how heat could be a factor...
Strength? Maybe...
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Yeah, why is that?
If you've ever welded any aluminum, then you know that it takes a lot more heat to weld than steel does. It takes more heat because it dissipates the heat so rapidly.
I've never heard this about aluminum blocks before.
There used to be a "school of thought" that you could get more power from cast iron heads than aluminum because they retained the heat better. But with aluminum, you can, usually run a higher compression ratio than with cast iron because of the better heat dissipating qualities.
Confusing huh?
I can't imagine how heat could be a factor...
Strength? Maybe...
Weak and get hot fast .. Duh ! Lol
Why do you think ford didn't use those blocks .. They went with iron instead
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I can see the weak part but reread what I said about aluminum and heat...
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I can see the weak part but reread what I said about aluminum and heat...
^this +1!
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So... Should i spend 200 and get the block and buy C heads then?
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