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Old 09-29-2013, 04:11 PM   #36
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haha no theory here. just was told if I gear it to high I will top out on the highway and to go with 373s but if everyone on here says 410;s are the way to go then who am I to argue... 410 and bama tuner next month...
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haha no theory here. just was told if I gear it to high I will top out on the highway and to go with 373s but if everyone on here says 410;s are the way to go then who am I to argue... 410 and bama tuner next month...
Sorry, wasn't meaning to point at you with that one. I meant in general.

But yeah.. The rom difference between 3.27s and 4.10s at speed is like 500-600 at most. Rpm difference between 3.73 and 4.10 is like 100rpm or so. So it's silly to miss out on the big difference for a tiny increase in RPM.
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I assume when buyin the gears get a rebuild kit and locker
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I assume when buyin the gears get a rebuild kit and locker
It's highly recommended. Too cheap not to, really.
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obv I cant do the gears myself ... how much does a shop usually charge for install
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obv I cant do the gears myself ... how much does a shop usually charge for install
$300-450 is pretty normal. Some might go a little less or more. I got mine installed for about $345.
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Mine were done for $275
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I am going to order 4.10 gears and rebuild kit this week, do we get a M.E. discount from American muscle? going to check around for install prices Monday
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Y'all are lucky. A shop quoted me $450 for labor alone.
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Y'all are lucky. A shop quoted me $450 for labor alone.
Best quote I got was $475
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Best quote I got was $475
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wont it make you top out on the highway
I've topped out at 130 in 4th and I hit 145 in 5th gear yesterday
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I've topped out at 130 in 4th and I hit 145 in 5th gear yesterday
Yeah for me I'm at about 2500 rpms doing 70ish on the highway in 5th gear. Still plenty left if i need it; and I have 4.10's in my GT with a T-45.
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4Vs have a silly redline and the forged cranks can take it so 4.10s or even 4.30s are recommended. Actually if you can deal with the higher 5th gear RPMs I would recommend 4.30s. I'd also recommend a WOT box and a MGW shifter for that setup or swap to an automatic. And es I know the auto Mach does not have a forged crank for any know it alls out there. That would be one you'd want to keep under 7k RPM.

Google RPM calculator if anyone on here is wondering what their RPM will be with XYZ gear. Final drive ratio in a T5 or T45 is .67, for a 3650 or Cobra T56 its .62 in 5th for the 3650 or 6th for the T-56. Yes that Termi T-56 will NOT get you a deeper overdrive than the 3650 unless you buy the Magnum which is .5 in 6th. The Termi T-56 is the close ratio unit which gets you like a .7 something 5th gear in between 1.0 in 4th and .62 in 6th. The "gotcha" here is if you have a super ridiculous early run 3650, then you also have .67 final drive like the T5/T45. OEM tire height is 26". IIRC a set of 4.10s and going 70mph is right around 2450 RPM in overdrive.
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thanks Midnight, ordered 4.10 gears last night, checked some install prices, wow, 325-500$ going to call a few more places today
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Yeah gears are probably the most overcharged parts to install because a lot of people cannot do them. Just browse around until you find a fair price from a good shop.
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Yeah gears are probably the most overcharged parts to install because a lot of people cannot do them. Just browse around until you find a fair price from a good shop.
It's usually 100-300 for install over here
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Shop that does all my tunning. Charges 480. Thats with them providing the gears and everything
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found a shop that will install for 200$ cant wait
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It's usually 100-300 for install over here
I would not pay $50 for the install from the dude you had do them from what you were saying about how it all went.
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I would not pay $50 for the install from the dude you had do them from what you were saying about how it all went.
A buddy of mine offered to do my GT gears for like 75 bucks at our shop. But idk what happened .. I think we needed shims but I ended up taking it to a shop for like 150 labor and it turned out great
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My friends uncle has an old Impala running high 10's with full interior and everything who has switched gears himself about 4 times in his impala. My friend said he would probably do it for free or cheap.
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Thinking about getting gears too. Not sure about the install if I wanna do it myself or have a shop do it
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If you know what you're doing I'd save money and do it.
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To the shop it is! I was reading online and seeing some people do it. I don't think it's a job for a semi broke 17 year old boy.
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To the shop it is! I was reading online and seeing some people do it. I don't think it's a job for a semi broke 17 year old boy.
I didn't know your mechanical experience or age lol. I'm in the same boat here at 16. Not too ready to tackle gears.
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I didn't know your mechanical experience or age lol. I'm in the same boat here at 16. Not too ready to tackle gears.
Lol I remember when I was 16
I thought I knew it all :p
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Lol I remember when I was 16
I thought I knew it all :p
Lol, yeah we all did. I'd love to go back and kick my own *** for being such an idiot back then. Hell I still don't know anything but at least now I'm aware of that fact lol. My self in 10 years will probably want to come back to now and beat my current self up.
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Lol, yeah we all did. I'd love to go back and kick my own *** for being such an idiot back then. Hell I still don't know anything but at least now I'm aware of that fact lol. My self in 10 years will probably want to come back to now and beat my current self up.
I know I know barely anything haha. Still pretty good compared to most kids nowadays though
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Lol, yeah we all did. I'd love to go back and kick my own *** for being such an idiot back then. Hell I still don't know anything but at least now I'm aware of that fact lol. My self in 10 years will probably want to come back to now and beat my current self up.
Haha yeah
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OK I have a 2003 GT with an auto trans. Is there anyone here that has 373 or 410 gears with a auto trans that can tell me the rpm for 70 mph with these gears with the auto trans. I have stock 327 gears now and I am at 2100rpm at 70mph
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Lol, yeah we all did. I'd love to go back and kick my own *** for being such an idiot back then. Hell I still don't know anything but at least now I'm aware of that fact lol. My self in 10 years will probably want to come back to now and beat my current self up.
Haha.
At the end of every decade of my life, I always look back, and think to myself; "Jesus, I wasn't very smart in my teens, 20's, 30's, etc".
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OK I have a 2003 GT with an auto trans. Is there anyone here that has 373 or 410 gears with a auto trans that can tell me the rpm for 70 mph with these gears with the auto trans. I have stock 327 gears now and I am at 2100rpm at 70mph
Google "RPM calculator"

Your final drive ratio in an automatic is .70

Stock wheel size is 26"

Have at it.
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