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Old 04-08-2014, 08:59 PM   #106
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We'll probably use his car on Sunday. His car is better set up for the class than mine is, and he's tightening up his diff for this race... I haven't received mine yet so I wont be able to have it installed.
The biggest advantage to us co-driving is that on our fourth lap, we will each have gone around the course either 7 or 8 times, depending on who goes first. Part of the challenge in autocross is the ability to remember the course, you normally only get four chances at a fast lap, so the additional "windshield" time is a nice advantage. Also, we'll learn from each other, so that will be good.
I am a little nervous about driving a different car though. Bobs car is an 04 GT so that should be familiar but he puts a bunch of camber in and I've never raced on R comps before so it will definitely be an interesting day!
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Nice! That sounds pretty awesome! What all is done to his car?
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Bobs car has the same springs that are on my car, Konis, a fat *** sway bar in the front that requires wheel spacers to run 275's. I think that it has an adjustable rear sway bar. The engine is stock for the most part.
There's not a lot of really worthwhile mods that you can do in ESP, other than the standard bolt-ons, and still be class legal. The ability to run any size dot legal tire and rim combination is really the biggest advantage of the class. A 5 litre seems to be a help for some as well... My Bullitt, for instance, came from the factory with practically every bolt-on that's allowed in ESP. Again, the most helpful ones anyway.
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Bobs car has the same springs that are on my car, Konis, a fat *** sway bar in the front that requires wheel spacers to run 275's. I think that it has an adjustable rear sway bar. The engine is stock for the most part.
There's not a lot of really worthwhile mods that you can do in ESP, other than the standard bolt-ons, and still be class legal. The ability to run any size dot legal tire and rim combination is really the biggest advantage of the class. A 5 litre seems to be a help for some as well... My Bullitt, for instance, came from the factory with practically every bolt-on that's allowed in ESP. Again, the most helpful ones anyway.
meh, what they don't know won't hurt them lol
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Bobs car has the same springs that are on my car, Konis, a fat *** sway bar in the front that requires wheel spacers to run 275's. I think that it has an adjustable rear sway bar. The engine is stock for the most part.
There's not a lot of really worthwhile mods that you can do in ESP, other than the standard bolt-ons, and still be class legal. The ability to run any size dot legal tire and rim combination is really the biggest advantage of the class. A 5 litre seems to be a help for some as well... My Bullitt, for instance, came from the factory with practically every bolt-on that's allowed in ESP. Again, the most helpful ones anyway.
Nice! Sounds like he has a solid running car. I think it's pretty cool that he's letting you drive his car as well!

I'm really curious to see what class my car would get put into if I ever decide to run it.
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meh, what they don't know won't hurt them lol
Haha...
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Haha...
I want to drive Brian's Camaro.
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Nice! Sounds like he has a solid running car. I think it's pretty cool that he's letting you drive his car as well!

I'm really curious to see what class my car would get put into if I ever decide to run it.
I was flattered when the class winner asked me to co-drive his car...

Your car would be In ESP except for the recent gear change. For our cars, 3.55 is the highest numerical gear allowed.
Shhh. Just don't mention the gears JDF...
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I want to drive Brian's Camaro.
You should have jumped when he offered!
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You should have jumped when he offered!
Didn't know if it was a real offer!!!! LOL
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Didn't know if it was a real offer!!!! LOL
Haha.
He was serious. He would have let either one or BOTH of us drive it.

I kind of regret not driving it...
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Haha.

He was serious. He would have let either one or BOTH of us drive it.



I kind of regret not driving it...

I'll try to convince my dad to take the corvette to one
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I'll try to convince my dad to take the corvette to one
He should do at least one!

That Vette probably needs the cobwebs blown out of the engine...
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He should do at least one!

That Vette probably needs the cobwebs blown out of the engine...
The Vette doesn't know what a track looks like lol. I always tell him on paper the Vette is faster, but in real life the Bullitt is faster because I actually have time slips and he doesn't have anything LOL
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I was flattered when the class winner asked me to co-drive his car...

Your car would be In ESP except for the recent gear change. For our cars, 3.55 is the highest numerical gear allowed.
Shhh. Just don't mention the gears JDF...
If it's all based on the honor system then I'd definitely stick with the easiest class I can.. heck every time I review my suspension mod list I realize the car isn't very modified at all.
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Well the mod bug has bitten again, I've been trying to come up with ideas of what to do to my car the past few days and have settled on 3 things:
FTBR bushing kit
New front bumper
MM C/C plates with Steeda bump steer kit

I really want the FTBR kit so that I don't have to worry such about getting wheel hop and snapping an axle. Also I can launch harder due to that as well.

My front bumper is toast, it's got a lot of scratches and the mounting tabs have broken on the passenger side (courtesy of love tapping a civic two years ago). I'd probably stick with a stock GT bumper unless I can magically find a 99/01 Cobra bumper.

The C/C plates and bump steer kit are fairly obvious, my camber is horrible and I'd like to get that fixed so that my tires will last a little longer.

Thoughts and opinions on what I should go about doing first?
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I'd do the cc plates and bumpsteer first, that'll give you time to find a 99/01 bumper
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Yeah the only issue I have with doing the plates and bump steer kit is the fact that my car is a pain in the *** to get on my shops alignment rack. Last time I was on there it took two guys and an hour and a half to get it on and off
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The bushings. So you can finally break into the 13's...
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Ha! I ran a 15.1 last time, I'm still waiting for 14s to happen.
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Sucks to be where your track is. I ran 13.9 exhaust and cai
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Haha.
I think that you and I are much alike JDF... You aren't willing to break your car to turn a fast quarter mile. Im more of a "mechanic guy" than a "driver guy" and every time that I push the car to it's limits, all I can think about is how hard it is on this or that and how I'm prematurely wearing something out.
That's why I think that the FTBR bushings should be first, they'll give you the most "peace of mind" of the mechanical improvements that you listed.
As for the front end, I'd start accumulating ALL of the front end components and rebuild the entire thing, balljoints, bushings, tie rods, EVERYTHING! Then it, hopefully, only has to go on the rack once.

Hey, I just got a set of X2 balljoints and I remember you mentioning tack welding to keep them from popping out. It doesn't say anything about that in the instructions that came with them nor have I seen any online instructions that mention welding.
Where did you see that little "trick"?
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Haha.
I think that you and I are much alike JDF... You aren't willing to break your car to turn a fast quarter mile. Im more of a "mechanic guy" than a "driver guy" and every time that I push the car to it's limits, all I can think about is how hard it is on this or that and how I'm prematurely wearing something out.
That's why I think that the FTBR bushings should be first, they'll give you the most "peace of mind" of the mechanical improvements that you listed.
As for the front end, I'd start accumulating ALL of the front end components and rebuild the entire thing, balljoints, bushings, tie rods, EVERYTHING! Then it, hopefully, only has to go on the rack once.

Hey, I just got a set of X2 balljoints and I remember you mentioning tack welding to keep them from popping out. It doesn't say anything about that in the instructions that came with them nor have I seen any online instructions that mention welding.
Where did you see that little "trick"?
Haha yeah I think we are the same. However I have no prpblem flogging my car on a track day when I feel it's running good. I think I'll definitely go with the FTBR kit first, but I might be buying a paintball gun instead this time around so the car probably won't get any upgrades for a while.

If I do front end work all at once I'm gonna go with MM control arms, X2 ball joints, bump steer kit, MM front coil overs, and C/C plates.

Give me a bit and I'll try and dig up the post I found about it. There's been a couple reports of those ball joints popping out and that seems to be the common solution
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Hey, I just got a set of X2 balljoints and I remember you mentioning tack welding to keep them from popping out. It doesn't say anything about that in the instructions that came with them nor have I seen any online instructions that mention welding.
Where did you see that little "trick"?
Page 60 post 1195 is where I heard it from. I never really researched more beyond that though.
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Haha epic fail on my part I forgot to post the link http://m.themustangsource.com/showth...448701&page=60
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Haha.
Ok. Thanks! I'll have a look. If the X2's are as difficult to install as the factory ball joints were to remove, though, I don't think that there will be a problem.
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Yeah some of the members on there were wondering if the coilovers that the guy had were putting some sort of extra load on the ball joint in order to cause it
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Yeah, I read that. Coincidental that was a Bullitt. Lol.
I wonder what happened to Bullitt3006, the posts ended in February. He's local to Northern CA.
I have the ball joints in the freezer so they'll shrink a bit and make them easier to install. I'll see how tight the fit is and maybe throw a tack on there for the hell of it. I just painted the control arms so I hate to do it though. I'd hate it worse if the ball joint popped out...
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Haha yeah that is quite the coincidence. His name is Arin if that rings a bell.
That should make things much easier I would think. I would research it more before deciding to put a tack on it, I'm sure if it were a really common problem a lot more people would know about it
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SHEWWW!
I'm getting too old for this!!!
Ok. One is in and it was pretty tight going in.
Really, looking at this control arm, you would have to get the wheel airborne for the ball joint to pop out. The weight of the car should keep it pulled up into the A-arm.
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Good! Maybe his was just a fluke or the shop installed it wrong
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Another piece of the puzzle completed!
They both went in pretty tight so I think I'm going to skip the tack welding for now and just keep an eye on them.

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Another piece of the puzzle completed!
They both went in pretty tight so I think I'm going to skip the tack welding for now and just keep an eye on them.

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Awesome! Definitely keep me informed!
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Well today I installed some gauges to fill out my CD player delete. I installed and Autometer Water Temp gauge and a SVE Voltmeter. Install was easy (relatively). I like the look but they are definitely out of the way. I tried taking a picture that roughly shows how bad the angle is.
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