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Old 11-12-2013, 05:23 PM   #1
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need fast advice

I have a 01 v6 which i'm turning into a v8. i'm getting an engine and tranny for it and i saw an ad of an 05 transmission for sale off a gt and i was wondering if it would fit my 2001 mustang?
it's at a good price and the guy selling is also a fan of mustangs.
can anyone help????
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I wouldnt even try it. Too much of a hassle.
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Different tranny and you would have to modify your car to get it to work properly. Are you swapping in a 2V 4.6?
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I'm not too familiar with engine or mechanics in general. i just love mustangs and want to get more involved under the hood.
I bought it with a bad oil pump (v6) and instead of fixing that i'm getting a v8 from a gt for it.
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I'm not too familiar with engine or mechanics in general. i just love mustangs and want to get more involved under the hood.
I bought it with a bad oil pump (v6) and instead of fixing that i'm getting a v8 from a gt for it.
Gotcha. Everybodys gotta start somewhere. But is the engine out of a 99-04? I'm asking cause there's a few different options you can go with, manual or auto. Heck you might be able to re-use the one that came with the v6. Its very important you know the specifics before you start this project.
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Its very important you know the specifics before you start this project.
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I still haven't gotten the engine. But i'm thinking about getting both the engine and the transmission from a junk yard (they come with warranty) and take them to go get checked out, make sure there's nothing wrong with them and start putting the mustang back together. Would that be a good idea?
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I still haven't gotten the engine. But i'm thinking about getting both the engine and the transmission from a junk yard (they come with warranty) and take them to go get checked out, make sure there's nothing wrong with them and start putting the mustang back together. Would that be a good idea?
Its a good start. You're gonna need a bit more than that though. Assuming your going with a 99-04, if you get a whole car as a donor, you should have everything you would need for the swap. Heck even a 94-98 you could still pull it off. Especially if you want to swap in a pushrod 5.0.
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Honestly, its cheaper/easier to buy a GT if you want a V8. You need much more than just the engine/trans and finding all the little "gotcha" pieces individually will drive you nucking futs. I speak from experience here...
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What else would i need if i get the engine and tranny separate from the car?
Thank for the help man.

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:46 PM ----------

Well i already bought the car so i have to do this project. Haha
I was gonna get a gt initially but i was going to take a long time to save up that much, I'd figure this would be cheaper.
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Fuel system, harness, computer, cluster just for starters. Rear would not NEED to be changed but should be if you don't want to blow it up in a month. If you are dead set on it, find a wrecked GT to be your donor car. If not... sell it or part it out and buy a GT.

Edit: No, it won't be cheaper.
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Off the top of my head, wire harness, computer, engine mounts, rear end (to do it right), fuel stuff drive shaft....etc...etc.... this kind of swap has been done before. I'd google it if i were you, and read some write ups that people who have done it wrote. It'll give you a good idea of what your in for lol.
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A friend of mine said that i could just change the engine and transmission and leave everything else the same, that's why i chose doing the swap. What do you mean by changing the rear?

---------- Post added at 09:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:16 PM ----------

I have done research but i always get different things when i lool it up. But yeah thia is going to be harder than i thought.
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You're friend doesn't know what he's talking about.
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The rear axle. The gt's came with an 8.8 as opposed to the v6's getting a 7.5. The 8.8 is one of the best rear ends in a production vehicle. A lot stronger and all around better. Its not required when doing a swap, but you might as well do it since it'll have to be swapped eventually.
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So how much do you think i would end up spending? If i get everything used.
I should've thought this through a lot more before i got started.

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Kind of figured that out haha but thank you so much for all the help. I should've gotten on here before i even considered buying the mustang.
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The rear axle. The gt's came with an 8.8 as opposed to the v6's getting a 7.5. The 8.8 is one of the best rear ends in a production vehicle. A lot stronger and all around better. Its not required when doing a swap, but you might as well do it since it'll have to be swapped eventually.
i knew our rear end is pretty good but is it really THAT good like u said??
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So how much do you think i would end up spending? If i get everything used. I should've thought this through a lot more before i got started. ---------- Post added at 09:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:36 PM ---------- Kind of figured that out haha but thank you so much for all the help. I should've gotten on here before i even considered buying the mustang.
The cost can very depending on new or used parts and the expense of having them shipped or going out and gathering then from craigslist or junkyards. I would imagine if you were doing all the work yourself or with help from friends it's gonna be anywhere from 6-8k ballpark. That's if you find some deals along the way. Not to mention all the tools, etc you will need to get specific jobs done. I would sell it like a couple others have said, fix the oil pump, detail it out and get it gone. Then save some more or buy a beater to get you thru until you can buy a nice clean GT. My two cents. Been there, was involved in a never ending 87 lx 4cyl to V8 swap back in the day. Got it done eventually but all the money spent and headaches I should have bought a nice clean GT even with a blown motor and it would have been cheaper, easier, and a much much quicker project.

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After taking a look at your pics on your profile I guess it will take more than an oil pump fix to get it in running and driving order to sell it. Maybe part it out, could possibly make more that way, there are lots of guys into v6s that may snatch up some parts from you. I'll sell you my 96 GT, lol. Not the fastest thing around but in great shape and one of the cleanest SN95s around me, and best of all a turn key cruiser!!! Haha. Joking kind of.
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:49 AM   #20
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i knew our rear end is pretty good but is it really THAT good like u said??
Well its not the end all be all, I stopped short of saying it was bullet proof. Lol But as far as production vehicles go, its one of the best made to date. Not to get off subject, But the Dana 60 is a good one, and the legendary 9" (also Ford) come to mind. Most agree the weak link for the 8.8 is the 28 spline axles; and those still hold some decent power. But upgrade to 31's, and it'll support gobs of horsepower.
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So how much do you think i would end up spending? If i get everything used.
I should've thought this through a lot more before i got started.

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Kind of figured that out haha but thank you so much for all the help. I should've gotten on here before i even considered buying the mustang.
First off your friend is clueless, you need to a LOT more than engine/trans. How is the V6 computer going to control the V8 for example? And that's just a basic thing.

Second, figure the motor will be $600-$1000, good trans $700, whole harness $500, ECU/cluster $150-$200, fuel system $300-$400, figure all the misc stuff you are missing if you don't get a wrecked donor $500. There is more I'm forgetting. Suspension and all should be updated too yadda yadda yadda. And that's doing it all yourself. Do you have a lift? Access to a variety of tools/specialty tools like presses, pullers, air tools etc? If you are even thinking of paying someone to do the swap then I hope you have an industrial size vat of KY at your disposal...

By the time you get done you'll be into it for at least as much as a GT.


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i knew our rear end is pretty good but is it really THAT good like u said??
Yes, yes it is. 33 spline axles and a beefy aftermarket differential and you are good for well into single digits. Even the IRS can take a boatload of power if built up properly. Not like the SRA but still a good deal.
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I thought the 96-98 was a 4.6 not the 5.0?
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I thought the 96-98 was a 4.6 not the 5.0?
It is, 94-95 was a 5.0, and the same body style
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There's a local junkyard that sells everything at real low prices because you take the part out of the vehicle yourself amd they even come with warranty. I would just need to know exactly what i would need, so far this is on my list:
Wiring harness
Computer
Fuel system
Rear axle
Suspension
Driveshaft
Is there anything I'm missing?

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Everything that I'm gonna take out of the v6 I'm gonna sell and use that money to buy more parts. And i got most of the tools except the lift.. I'm using a bobcat and a chain for that.
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What else would i need if i get the engine and tranny separate from the car? Thank for the help man. ---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:46 PM ---------- Well i already bought the car so i have to do this project. Haha I was gonna get a gt initially but i was going to take a long time to save up that much, I'd figure this would be cheaper.
Haha insurance will be cheaper cause they will think its a v6!
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Not really because they will be figure out it's a v8 through the computer.
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Not really because they will be figure out it's a v8 through tje comuter.
Insurance is based by the vin number. If the vin is for a V6, then that's what your rates will depend on. However, if you were to get into an accident, they would only give you the value of the V6.
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Insurance is based by the vin number. If the vin is for a V6, then that's what your rates will depend on. However, if you were to get into an accident, they would only give you the value of the V6.
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So if I bring a skyline from Japan and register it as a 240 I only get paid as if it was a crappy 240? :-'(
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So if I bring a skyline from Japan and register it as a 240 I only get paid as if it was a crappy 240? :-'(
Really?

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Really? Smh...............
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OP, a project this big is not something I would suggests to somebody that doesn't "know much about engines or mechanics" I don't want to be discouraging, nor does anyone else on here, we are all just being bluntly honest because we would hate to see a fellow stanger spend gobs of cash on stuff that can be accomplished for far less.

6's and 8's may look the same on the outside and inside, however, under the hood and body they are far far different beasts. Engine swaps now says are not a one night projects like they were in the 60's, 70's and midway through the 80's. I bid you to look under the hood of a 6 and then a 8 and just count how many things are different. You'll be amazed.

I would suggest taking the money you are going to spend on doing the swap, and fix the 6. Then build her up. Heads, cams, super or turbo or Nos, headers exhaust, a handheld with some good tunes. Definitely do the rear end swap. Lower it, do your upper and lower control arms. Do sub frame connectors..... The list is endless. Or like many have already said. Just save up for that GT.
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I hope so! We don't need anymore rice! Lol
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Don't quote me on these things because it don't know enough about the 6's to know for sure. My guess is the radiators are different. Coolant reservoir, tranny cooler may be different (if an auto) motor mounts. Front springs may be different-> 8 weighs more, guessing the GT's had stiffer springs. Coolant hoses, not to mention all the vacuum lines<- man are those ever a headache.

This has all been done before... But op... Do tons and tons of research if you have your heart set on this.
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I get you but a skyline isn't rice lol

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