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Old 11-13-2013, 08:01 AM   #1
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Ticking noise?!

I drive a 2002 Mustang GT. It has 162,000 miles on it. I bought it used back in February of 2013. So most stuff on it is factory stock and hasn't been replaced. When I start it, it begins a ticking (or knocking) noise?! I don't really know what it is. There is no loss of pedal reaction or power loss. Does anyone have any idea what it could be?
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Post a vid. If its just a slight tick that's just valvetrain noise. If its a louder tick that goes faster the faster you rev the motor that's likely a rod knock and the motor is toast.
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+1 on the video.

If it Only does it in cold starts and goes away after a little bit, chances are its the valve train, could be a little low on oil?

Hopefully its not a rod knock, or bad bearings........
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Post a vid. If its just a slight tick that's just valvetrain noise. If its a louder tick that goes faster the faster you rev the motor that's likely a rod knock and the motor is toast.
It's not extremely loud, but to me it sounds like it has something to do with the valves or something, but I'm not sure… My brother thinks it's the ball bearings on the belt tensioner or one of the other things the belt turns. When we bought it, we replaced the water pump first thing as well as the spark plugs and hoses.

If it is valve train noise, is it a cheap fix?

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+1 on the video. If it Only does it in cold starts and goes away after a little bit, chances are its the valve train, could be a little low on oil? Hopefully its not a rod knock, or bad bearings........
We change the oil and maintenance on it regularly, so if anything, it is just a little above the full mark on oil…
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Nothing on a modular motor is cheap to fix lol. But it's more then likely a timing chain tensioner or guide. Which just pull valve covers and timing cover and replace the timing kit.
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Nothing on a modular motor is cheap to fix lol. But it's more then likely a timing chain tensioner or guide. Which just pull valve covers and timing cover and replace the timing kit.
Okay. I will check that out. Thank you so much!
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I have a ticking noise coming out of the vents. Anyone

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I have a ticking noise coming out of the vents. Anyone
Have that going on? I turn on the car and it starts then goes away after about 5 seconds. Sounds like the vents inside are sticking.
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I have a ticking noise coming out of the vents. Anyone ---------- Post added at 01:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:48 PM ---------- Have that going on? I turn on the car and it starts then goes away after about 5 seconds. Sounds like the vents inside are sticking.
Is it when your heat is on? Maybe it could be a blower motor?
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Is it when your heat is on? Maybe it could be a blower motor?
No. The AC/ heat is off. When I start it
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I have a video of the ticking sound, but it won't post videos. Only pictures…
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Old 12-01-2013, 01:35 PM   #11
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Well, my uncle, dad, me, and my brother have all come to the conclusion that it is the timing chain slapping the rail thing that it rides/slides on. My 'stang currently has 162,809.4 miles on it. I guess it's gotten so loose it can no longer be self-adjusted and tighten itself.
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My uncle is going to replace the timing chan this coming weekend (December 7-8, 2013) and hopefully this is what fixes all of these strange noises my car has been repeatedly making here lately…
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:32 PM   #13
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I know it's far fetched but if u have cats on ur car crank it up and take a screw driver or something metal an hold it against the cat. A lot of times they break down inside and make a strange noise. Worth a shot
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Tick tick tick tick tick...
WTH ever happened to Mustangman705? Did he have to go on a "forced" holiday?

I'd make for goddamn sure that it's the timing chain before tearing into it OP.
My sister's mod motor was "diagnosed" with a bad timing chain by one mechanic, and another mechanic fixed the problem by replacing the noisy accessory that was the actual cause. I can't remember which one... the alternator or air conditioning compressor, something like that.
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I too thought this was a MustangMan thread.
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Tick tick tick tick tick...
WTH ever happened to Mustangman705? Did he have to go on a "forced" holiday?

I'd make for goddamn sure that it's the timing chain before tearing into it OP.
My sister's mod motor was "diagnosed" with a bad timing chain by one mechanic, and another mechanic fixed the problem by replacing the noisy accessory that was the actual cause. I can't remember which one... the alternator or air conditioning compressor, something like that.
He's the one I thought I was going to find in this thread when I clicked on it. Can't say I miss that troll though.
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:06 PM   #17
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Okay, well, luckily we tore down the front of the motor and found out it was the timing chain. It was so loose that it had been slapping the timing chain guard so hard that it actually broke the plastic guard into pieces and the pieces got into my oil pan. So does anybody have tips on how to easily get the oil pan off of a 2002 Mustang GT deluxe coupe 4.6 L motor. We got to that point today and had to stop until tomorrow. Any tips?

After all, it was the timing chain, not the catalytic converters broken down inside. But thanks for making that suggestion!
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Okay, well, luckily we tore down the front of the motor and found out it was the timing chain. It was so loose that it had been slapping the timing chain guard so hard that it actually broke the plastic guard into pieces and the pieces got into my oil pan. So does anybody have tips on how to easily get the oil pan off of a 2002 Mustang GT deluxe coupe 4.6 L motor. We got to that point today and had to stop until tomorrow. Any tips? After all, it was the timing chain, not the catalytic converters broken down inside. But thanks for making that suggestion!
if your car has the brace under the oil pan you have to remove that, then simply unbolt the oil pan if I remember correctly..
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if your car has the brace under the oil pan you have to remove that, then simply unbolt the oil pan if I remember correctly..
Okay! Thank you!
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Hell, I'd just leave the pieces in there. The oil pump has a screen to keep out the big stutf.
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Hell, I'd just leave the pieces in there. The oil pump has a screen to keep out the big stutf.
Well, my dad said he doesn't want to take any chances lol.
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Well, my dad said he doesn't want to take any chances lol.
Can't argue with doing the job right...
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Can't argue with doing the job right...
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How hard was it to replace the timing chains?
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How hard was it to replace the timing chains?
Well, we had to take A LOT of stuff off, such as pulleys. Idlers, and a bunch of other stuff. When we finally got to the timing chain, we noticed that on one side of the gear, the chain was so loose that we could move it with our fingers. Like, it was flopping and you could wiggle it (it wasn't right like it should have been). Since mine got loose enough, it started breaking the plastic chain guard/guide into tiny pieces. All of those tiny pieces have gotten into my oil pan now, so now we are gonna have to take my oil pan off to wipe out ALL of the trash plastic pieces that got into my oil pan.

Before we realized it was the timing chain making a ticking/slapping, we were replacing all of the idlers and the belt tensioner, thinking that the bearings were worn out (because my GT currently has 162,800 miles on it). After we realized it was still making that same noise, my uncle, dad, grandpa, brother, and I all came to the conclusion that it was the timing chain being tooooooo loose and it was slapping that plastic chain guard/guide…
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Well, we finally just now got the oil pan off of the GT. We ended up having to lower the K Member some to get the oil pan off. My uncle was going to completely take the transmission apart from the motor, but we didn't want to go that far to do that much lol.
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Good to hear that you found the source of the problem. Be glad the ticking wasnt anything worse like a rod knock!!

Good luck with the fix and have fun with it.
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Also if u get another strang knock or tick that when u push up ur rpms and it gets louder and faster check ur ignition coils and plugs. Couple weeks ago i had a knock/tick and my number 4 cyl ignition coil mount had snapped and my head where my plug threads in was stripped where it wouldn thread in at all so had to tap it and use a heli-coil to just fix the plug problem.
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Good to hear that you found the source of the problem. Be glad the ticking wasnt anything worse like a rod knock!!

Good luck with the fix and have fun with it.

Yeah. Since we lifted the motor off of the motor mounts, we created a very small exhaust leak. When I give it gas now, you hear a seeping noise. When my dad heard it, he was like "yup, that's an exhaust leak" and he said to just replace some seal or connector or something and that would fix my problem. Other than that, it's literally running like a BRAND NEW Mustang! I'm now hearing more transmission noise than I am engine noise. (My 2002 Mustang GT has an automatic transmission). It's normal transmission noises that fords have in common. Pumps n such. Lol
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Runs out part of the ticking was the old timing chain and the other part was a damaged piston. Something got down in the motor where the piston was when somebody changed out the original intake on the top of the motor before I owned it. Here is the damage…Click image for larger version

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Oof, that sucks a bag... Welp, no time like the present to forge the rotating assembly or at least do the budget MMR $900 rod/piston combo, re-use the cast crank and slap it all back together for some plans later on down the road. Or find a good Cobra crank if you can. Or just do a full balls out build now but that's probably not something you planned budgeting for lol.
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Here is what caused the damage to my 2 pistons:
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We found this piece of metal in my plastic intake manifold we got from Napa Auto Parts LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. Luckily, they said they would replace it at no charge.
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Here is what caused the damage to my 2 pistons:
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We found this piece of metal in my plastic intake manifold we got from Napa Auto Parts LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. Luckily, they said they would replace it at no charge.
Yeesh!
Dorman I presume...
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Well, that's what we thought, but it doesn't say that on it anywhere not did it say that on the box. ❓❗️
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Is that a piece that broke off of the manifold somewhere or was it just inside when you installed it?
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