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Old 11-16-2013, 07:04 PM   #1
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V6 Firebird??

A buddy of mine owns a 1999 Firebird(automatic) V6 3.8L with bored cylinders and forged pistons... Would that beat my 1996 V8 Mustang(standard) ??? (Nothing special on the Mustang, just a stock V8)
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Forged internals don't do anything if your n/a I think. Just make your engine heavier lol

Someone correct me if I'm wrong
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Forged internals don't do anything if your n/a I think. Just make your engine heavier lol Someone correct me if I'm wrong
Wrong sorta.. Forged internals aren't a power adder so you're right in that aspect. But they serve as stronger engine components to allow your engine to operate under much higher horsepower and torque loads than stock.

That's why stock 4.6 2v handle about 420rwhp at the top in stock internals before needing forged. Forged allows more power to be tolerated.

You should be able to take the firebird no problem really. As long as you're a decent driver.
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Wrong sorta.. Forged internals aren't a power adder so you're right in that aspect. But they serve as stronger engine components to allow your engine to operate under much higher horsepower and torque loads than stock. That's why stock 4.6 2v handle about 420rwhp at the top in stock internals before needing forged. Forged allows more power to be tolerated. You should be able to take the firebird no problem really. As long as you're a decent driver.
but if there's no power adder than than only thing going for it is the is the tolerance right?
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but if there's no power adder than than only thing going for it is the is the tolerance right?
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What I wanna know is why would somebody bore out a 3.8l Firebird and put forged pistons in? Seems like a waste of money to me. The only gain I could see is maybe a bump in compression
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The fire bird is a turd.

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What I wanna know is why would somebody bore out a 3.8l Firebird and put forged pistons in? Seems like a waste of money to me. The only gain I could see is maybe a bump in compression
Ya the guy definitely bumped his head.
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The fire bird is a turd. ---------- Post added at 09:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 PM ---------- Ya the guy definitely bumped his head.
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What I wanna know is why would somebody bore out a 3.8l Firebird and put forged pistons in? Seems like a waste of money to me. The only gain I could see is maybe a bump in compression
Kinda like with my build in my mustang. It's NA making around 280-310rwhp maybe. No reason to have forged rotating assembly. However I plan on going FI in the future so I went ahead and built the bottom end correctly now.

He might have been doing the same thing. Or who knows? Could've rebuilt his engine and just got a crazy good deal on forged rods and pistons so he went for it. Why not, ya know?
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Kinda like with my build in my mustang. It's NA making around 280-310rwhp maybe. No reason to have forged rotating assembly. However I plan on going FI in the future so I went ahead and built the bottom end correctly now.

He might have been doing the same thing. Or who knows? Could've rebuilt his engine and just got a crazy good deal on forged rods and pistons so he went for it. Why not, ya know?
True but I feel like at that point it would be more effective to find one of the 3.8 supercharged motors for the same price as boring over a stock motor.
I feel like your build is a bit different from what that guy is going for (just an assumption here, I don't know what he plans on doing at all)
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V6 Camarobird vs NPI 2V... ugh that's like Peyton Manning vs Eli Manning in a footrace...
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You will have no problem. Now if that was the V8 with the LS1 you would be SOL
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V6 Camarobird vs NPI 2V... ugh that's like Peyton Manning vs Eli Manning in a footrace...
hahah funny funny!
Also how much can the actual block tolerate? If it's a v6 I'm guessing not a **** ton. I
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That was a dumb move on his part. If I wanted a bird I would have sold the sixxer and got a transam
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That was a dumb move on his part. If I wanted a bird I would have sold the sixxer and got a transam
The Firebird and TA have been basically the same car from the start. Just like the Chevelle and the Malibu.
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The Firebird and TA have been basically the same car from the start. Just like the Chevelle and the Malibu.
I want a Chevelle 454 and a 76-79 Pontiac Trans-am so bad.
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Trans ams look better. And either way would have traded the 6 for an 8. With the money for the internals and the sixxer could have pretty much paid off a good v8. I like the ws6 though...sweet car.
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Trans ams look better. And either way would have traded the 6 for an 8. With the money for the internals and the sixxer could have pretty much paid off a good v8. I like the ws6 though...sweet car.
The only major difference between the firebird and the trans am cosmetically is the more aggressive hood on the TA and the very slightly different rear fascia. Both of which fit on both cars without any modification.

And just for your guys's reference
Firebird = V6
Firebird Formula = V8
Trans AM = V8 with more performance goodies.

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I love the TA, i really want to get one after college.
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The only major difference between the firebird and the trans am cosmetically is the more aggressive hood on the TA and the very slightly different rear fascia. Both of which fit on both cars without any modification.

And just for your guys's reference
Firebird = V6
Firebird Formula = V8
Trans AM = V8 with more performance goodies.

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I love the TA, i really want to get one after college.
What color?
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What color?
Undecided.
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get black, the screaming chicken (firebird) looks great in black
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get black, the screaming chicken (firebird) looks great in black
Everyone has black.
I'll probably get it color swapped to Sonic Blue, or Inferno Orange that came on C6 Vettes
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Everyone has black. I'll probably get it color swapped to Sonic Blue, or Inferno Orange that came on C6 Vettes
Blue would be cool, dark blue...
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If I ever color swap blue onto a car it will be sonic blue
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If I ever color swap blue onto a car it will be sonic blue
Sonic blue is good, I think it would look great on a firebird
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My father sold a silver screaming chicken 1979 collectors edition Trans Am about 5 years ago. Had 11000 original miles and he got $22k cash.
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My father sold a silver screaming chicken 1979 collectors edition Trans Am about 5 years ago. Had 11000 original miles and he got $22k cash.
11k original miles from 79?????????
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11k original miles from 79?????????
That's crazy. Is that a typo, seems like it should be 110,000, at least.
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11000 miles, no typo. Had the original tires too. It was my uncles car. He bought it and died in 1979. My grandmother covered and garaged it for over 20 years and would not let anyone touch it. My father got it when she died and sold it in the mid-late 2000s. I forget what year it was.
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11000 miles, no typo. Had the original tires too. It was my uncles car. He bought it and died in 1979. My grandmother covered and garaged it for over 20 years and would not let anyone touch it. My father got it when she died and sold it in the mid-late 2000s. I forget what year it was.
im sirry for your losses :-/ but you should have kept the car. It could have stayed as a family heirloom lol
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I never knew him I was born in 1982 and it wasn't my call either. Personally I wanted my dad to keep the 1969 z28 with similar miles he got in that inheritance too... not the original engine and would have needed a minor restoration but still.
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