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Old 11-24-2013, 07:32 PM   #1
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Blow through setup

So I'm boosting the gt, I want to do an intercooled blow through setup. I read on another forum that SCT BA-2600/3000 Big Air 90MM MAF Sensors are both for draw through setups which are what I planned on getting, how can you tell what setup the MAF is intended for when they don't say? Also will it work with a blow through setup correctly? I know the lightning 90mm MAF works for blow through but it requires wiring modification and I hate messing around with wiring so no go there.

From what I've gathered from researching threads the past few hours, a good blow through setup is all about location. In what order should everything be setup...Throttle body, MAF, bov, intercooler, headunit? is that correct?

If I'm installing myself I want to make sure I know what I'm doing since the vortech/procharger install guides are supposedly pointless. Thanks any who know and can help!
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:16 AM   #2
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You are correct on the routing. I prefer a lightning 90mm maf with a diablo mafia. The wiring in not a big deal solder and some heat shrink and your done. The biggest issue is making sure you install the maf in the straightest area if the piping down from the throttle body. Also VMP tuning sells a nice set up
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I asked AM about the kit Im getting, comes with injectors but not a fuel pump. The rep said the stock fuel pump is good until I get to 5-600 range. I only will be around 400. Should I just leave the fuel pump, do bap, or drop im fuel pump (bbk, svt focus, etc)? If i can safely run the stocker Id like to until I forge and do more but wont it be pushing max efficiency all the time? Thanks!
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I asked AM about the kit Im getting, comes with injectors but not a fuel pump. The rep said the stock fuel pump is good until I get to 5-600 range. I only will be around 400. Should I just leave the fuel pump, do bap, or drop im fuel pump (bbk, svt focus, etc)? If i can safely run the stocker Id like to until I forge and do more but wont it be pushing max efficiency all the time? Thanks!
Install a single ford GT supercar pump and a BAP and you will be safe with no problems. A stock fuel pump will not get anywhere close to 500-600 rwhp. My car ran out Of fuel around 480rwhp with a single Ford GT supercar pump and a BAP turned all the way up. Always remember when making more power most people try to skimp on the fuel system that's a big no no. Always overbuild your fuel system because efficiency is key. You really want your fuel system running no more than 75% duty cycle. I have twin GT Supercar pumps, Fore billet fuel hat, 8an fuel feed, billet larger diameter fuel rails, 60lbs injectors, dual FPDM models running each pump, and 8 gauge to 10 gauge wiring upgrade direct to the pumps with a Dual Kenne Bell BAP. I have way more fuel system than I need but I also have the ability to make a good bit more power if need be.
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Appreciate it mzilla, guess time to browse for pumps and bap's.
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Appreciate it mzilla, guess time to browse for pumps and bap's.
You can google west coast mustangs and purchase private label twin 340lph pumps for $199 on line www.westcoastmustangs.com I have purchased new pump socks from this guy. His web page has a ton of useful fuel system info for your mustang
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340 are good pumps unless you plan on going e85 down the road...
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/bbk-fu...0lph-0104.html
What are thoughts on this pump? Think running this and a bap should be good for 400-450rwhp?
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That will work just remember to never run your GT tank believe a quarter tank or you may run lean
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Alright man appreciate all your help. I don't doubt Ill have more questions soon though lol.
Thanks again.
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Just finished purchasing all but a bap and bov broke but excited. Besides the little things like oil change and spark plug change thats recommended.
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What headunit will you be using?
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that's what I'm looking into, let me know how the install goes!
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Intercooling it and im upgrading the bov and maf maybe even the intercooler itself and just using the piping so that will probably be the most difficult part.
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I've got a V3 on my Fox, and I love it! No oil tapping, since its all self contained. I keep a bunch of thier headunit oil/lubricant around, even though they say 7K miles for a change.
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Look forward to it probably going to see if my tuner can give me a mail order to drive to their shop to tune.
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I know most places won't make a canned tune for FI vehicles. But no harm in asking. Of course you'll want a good tune to keep bad things from happening. Lol

Worse come to worse, If you have AAA, have them tow it. If not, I recommend the 100.00 for a year, its come in handy and saved me tons of cash since i signed up. And I usually tell them something about the drive shaft being bad or something as to why you need the tow. Lol
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I know some tuning shops do it. Cant be any worse than the canned tunes that come with the kits since those are usually for stock applications which mine is not. I wont be going into boost anyway so I should be good
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Yeah, that sounds like a plan!
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Any recommendations for a bap? Im going to run the injectors and and high flow fuel pump that come with the kit and add a bap just to be safe.
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Any recommendations for a bap? Im going to run the injectors and and high flow fuel pump that come with the kit and add a bap just to be safe.
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Kenne bell all the way
I've not personally used a bap, but I hear good things about the Kenne Bell too
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Would it be best to locate my bov on the right (before) or left (after) the intercooler? I was told both and want to know which would be better, I'm thinking the before.
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I've seen a lot on the passenger side. That's where I will be putting mine when the time comes. Did you buy all of your parts from superchargers online?
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I bought zero parts from superchargers online just because they refused to answer my phone calls and email
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I bought zero parts from superchargers online just because they refused to answer my phone calls and email
oh gotcha, do you mind me asking who you went through?
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Would it be best to locate my bov on the right (before) or left (after) the intercooler? I was told both and want to know which would be better, I'm thinking the before.
I relocate two times the BOV on my blow through setup. Now is located like 6 inches after the head unit and works perfect. Place the BOV far from the maf, that's it.
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I relocate two times the BOV on my blow through setup. Now is located like 6 inches after the head unit and works perfect. Place the BOV far from the maf, that's it.
Also a soft spring is required for supercharger setup on the BOV otherwise you would have a lot of compressor surge.
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I relocate two times the BOV on my blow through setup. Now is located like 6 inches after the head unit and works perfect. Place the BOV far from the maf, that's it.
Thanks! Just making sure.

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Also a soft spring is required for supercharger setup on the BOV otherwise you would have a lot of compressor surge.
Yup, I got one that came with the choice of a spring for s/c applications.
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Look forward to it probably going to see if my tuner can give me a mail order to drive to their shop to tune.
my local shop offers a basic fi tune to get it to the shop, so yours should to. They say drive it at low rpm and stay out of boost on that tune.
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