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Old 12-01-2013, 12:32 AM   #1
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Cam or supercharger

YEs, this may seem like a "dumb" question. But I'm torn between the two. I have the option of one or the other.

The main reasons I'm doubting the supercharger is mainly because I have high miles. If I were to get one I would more than likely get a vortech v3, non intercooler mainly because I would be more than happy with the horsepower that produces. But then again, the high miles scare me.

The cams on the other hand... EVERYONE loves the sound of a cammed car, and although for nearly the same price as a supercharger, their lack of producing the same power makes me doubt getting cams...but it would be easier and safer on my motor.

---139,xxx miles
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---Track rarely (although will be going a lot more often here soon)

Also, on the topic of superchargers, what are opinions on Paxton novi? If I were to go the supercharger route, I would go non intercooler for the time being.

I'd love to hear opinions!
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Boost! Vortech and Paxton are the same company i believe. All in the tune for a daily drive and intercool if you can but low boost should be good.
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Boost! Vortech and Paxton are the same company i believe.
how long should I expect my internals with that many miles to last :/ lol
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No idea. Some get a compression test done. I would boost these and save to forge. Once they go you can forge and crank up the boost. Intercooled of course.
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Boost! Vortech and Paxton are the same company i believe. All in the tune for a daily drive and intercool if you can but low boost should be good.
thats what I hear, I have a shop right around the corner from me that does great work. They've built a 1200 hp ford gt TT , and a 1300 hp jeep srt8 so more than likely I'd get them to tune me up lol!
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Get cams once you forge and do it while the engine is apart anyway. Then you can have both and have cams that work better for a blower.
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For a daily driver, Vortech all the way. Do a leakdown/compression test or have that shop do it and if it comes back good then go for it. Price will be about the same buying new, you need a tune either way. Cams will sound better yeah but you'll make a solid 100whp more with the Vortech and retain stock gas mileage and driveability as well. The Vortech is really only going to hit starting in the mid 3k RPM range so if you keep it out of boost its just like driving around with just bolt ons.
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Unfortunately mpg's drop usually because of the heavy foot you learn to love lol.
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For a daily driver, Vortech all the way. Do a leakdown/compression test or have that shop do it and if it comes back good then go for it. Price will be about the same buying new, you need a tune either way. Cams will sound better yeah but you'll make a solid 100whp more with the Vortech and retain stock gas mileage and driveability as well. The Vortech is really only going to hit starting in the mid 3k RPM range so if you keep it out of boost its just like driving around with just bolt ons.
I plan on piecing together a kit, my question is with the headunit (v3) what piping will I need (non intercooler) is it the same for all the kits? I will also be purchasing a 90mm lightning maf, injectors , and either focus pump or gt pumps.
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The lightning is good and is a blow through maf but will require some modification to operate on our cars. There's a whole piece together thread on the corral I believe and on modded mustangs. Or google vortech install guide for our cars. It shows some if not all of the assemblies needed if I remember correctly.
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If it makes u fell any better I got 153000 on my stock 2v and I've been spraying 125 shoot sense 105000 , they strong motor just don't go over 420 HP
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If it makes u fell any better I got 153000 on my stock 2v and I've been spraying 125 shoot sense 105000 , they strong motor just don't go over 420 HP
what do you dyno at with the 125 shot? Any bolt ons?
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Biggest issue now with piecing together a vortech kit is the word is out on how cheap everything else is and just getting a good headunit is a $800+ proposition and that's a V1. Used to be $500-$600 a few years ago...
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cam...and supercharger lol
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cam...and supercharger lol
You'd be surprised at how many people do this and THEN realize that their bottom end isn't going to be able to take any more power than the supercharger would make on its own without cams.

Kind of like the pushrod guys who put fully forged rotating assemblies and a full HCI with a blower onto a stock block and then see the guy with the JY explorer motor making the same numbers that they can't get past because the block will let go.
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