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Old 01-16-2014, 04:45 PM   #1
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My motor is in the shop now, I'm going with comp cams extreme energy 268h, are these good cams? And also I'm buying bbk shorty headers, do the headers make the motor harder to put in? Someone told me they do, input please
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Those are the stage 2 correct? If so then before you start it up manually crank it to check for Piston to valve clearance. The Comp Cam stage 2s are borderline when it comes to how big they are for a stock motor.
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Yeah they are stage 2, it says if they are degreed right then there will be no valve clearance issue
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If you are having a shop do it then you should be fine... A majority of people who do cams themselves decide not to degree them.
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And as for your headers, no it won't be harder to put the engine back in with the shorty headers. Shorty headers are pretty much the same size as the stock manifolds.
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The Comp 268h cams have a nice growl to them and make good power both N/A and Boosted. As mentioned above, it's always wise to turn the engine over by hand after messing with the valvetrain. However, to be ultimately careful- you can check PTV clearance with clay. That requires pulling the head off though.

Shorty headers don't make the engine much harder to install. Even LT headers won't be too bad if you're dropping the engine in. The key is to not bolt in the LT headers (or shorties if you have to) until the engine is in place. Have the headers tied to the sides of the inner fenders before you even drop the engine in. Then you won't have any trouble sliding them into place to be bolted in.

Will you be installing the engine yourself?

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Old 01-16-2014, 05:05 PM   #7
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Thanks Shane and no I'm having a mustang shop do it here in south jersey, they do know what they are doing lol I fell in love with these cams and I'm about to buy them from you guys
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Thanks Shane and no I'm having a mustang shop do it here in south jersey, they do know what they are doing lol I fell in love with these cams and I'm about to buy them from you guys
No problem man! Sounds like you're all taken care of with the cam install then. I would definitely look into some type of header as you mentioned earlier. Any aftermarket camshaft set will really benefit from free flowing exhaust headers. Especially if they're LT's. We're you already set of the shorties?

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Old 01-16-2014, 06:36 PM   #9
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Thanks Shane and yeah I'm set on the shorties, I don't have enough for long tubes lol
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Thanks Shane and yeah I'm set on the shorties, I don't have enough for long tubes lol
That's understandable, it's hard to upgrade everything at once. Shorty headers will still help significantly with the camshafts. The factory exhaust manifolds are terrible on these cars and completely kill the scavenging effect of exhaust flow. Increasing the pulse of the scavenging effect is exactly how aftermarket camshafts produce more power.

BBK is a good choice too. The make a solid header and won't break the bank to bad. Not to mention you'll hear more of an exhaust growl!

You'll have to post up a video once the car is all finished up. I'd love to hear it!

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Old 01-17-2014, 01:50 PM   #11
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Will do Shane! I wish I had long tubes but I already have an off road x pipe, I didn't feel like changing it up lol I can't wait to hear it as well!
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No worries, the shorties will do just fine. Even if you throw nitrous or boost at the car down the road, the shorties will still hang in there just fine. LT's are optimum, but not mandatory. I still think you'll be happy with the BBK shorties.

Hope to hear it soon!

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Yeah I felt the se way as I wanted longtubes real bad, I went cheap and bought the pacesetter longtubes and wow wish I would have saved up more for a different brand major clearance issues, but I'm going tubular K member soon so all in all not too big of a deal but someone wanting to not mess with that I'd totally stay away from them and don't go cheap just my .02
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What shop is doing the work for you?
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If your referring to me then none I'm doing it myself lol but if your not referring to me in your comment I apologize
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No, Sonic Blue I was talking to, since he mentioned a shop in South Jersey.
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Update- cams will be here tmmrw! Car is going in the shop next Wednesday due to snowstorm but it's been a longggggg 3 months not driving my car lol cannot wait to hear what it's going to sound like with the headers and cams, will post a vid when the time comes
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What shop in south jersey? If its Big Daddy, they are idiots and I hope it isn't them. Make damn sure the shop you are using is actually degreeing them and not using factory spec. Also going to need a tune obviously, hopefully they are doing that.
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It's my friends gpop, he builds motors for Bridgeport raceway and I will have it tuned eventually but I have to break the motor in, it was bored .20 over with new diamond rods and pistons
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Getting it tuned "eventually" is a very bad idea. Should be tuned right away. If you are going to do it, do it properly.
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Getting it tuned "eventually" is a very bad idea. Should be tuned right away. If you are going to do it, do it properly.

I'm not going to push a freshly built motor as soon as it's done, break in period is 500-1000 miles
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I'm not going to push a freshly built motor as soon as it's done, break in period is 500-1000 miles
That has absolutely 0 to do with getting it tuned. Running it pig rich or too lean for said 500-1000 miles is not smart.

Get it started, check for leaks, turn it off.

Start back up, double check for leaks/anything that could possibly be wrong.

Tow it or gently drive it to a local tuner (not the asshats at Big Daddy) and have it tuned.

Break it in as you say for 500-1000 miles, change oil and proceed to thrash the **** out of it.
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That has absolutely 0 to do with getting it tuned. Running it pig rich or too lean for said 500-1000 miles is not smart.



Get it started, check for leaks, turn it off.



Start back up, double check for leaks/anything that could possibly be wrong.



Tow it or gently drive it to a local tuner (not the asshats at Big Daddy) and have it tuned.



Break it in as you say for 500-1000 miles, change oil and proceed to thrash the **** out of it.

Don't forget to ask the engine shop if they broke the cams in.. Thankfully I asked mine and they had not done that so I caught it
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They are doing it for me, and Scotty what part of south jersey are you in?
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Bricktown. And definitely ask them if they are degreeing them and make sure its not just lined up to the factory marks as their "degree". Personally I would be going with Cushman stage 2 cams, his degree service and then you just drop them right in.

There are plenty of tuners around there too. Wicked is a really good one and they are in Toms River. Radical is great but I'm not sure if he does modulars or not. If you are near Atco definitely give Radical Racing a call and ask though.
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Mike from radical racing is doing the tuning and I'm in williamstown
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If radical is doing the tuning you should be G2G. I had Craig do my pushrod back 4 or 5 years ago and he took it from 260 baseline to 301 after only 3 pulls. They do good work.
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Here is a video of my cams! http://youtu.be/Lhg7BMr54f8
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Here is a video of my cams! http://youtu.be/Lhg7BMr54f8

What other mods do you have?.. And how does it drive with those Stage 2s?.. Been thinking about doing cams next in my '04 GT!..
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I'm also wondering about the drivability of the stage 2s on the street
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Sounds delicious.
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What other mods do you have?.. And how does it drive with those Stage 2s?.. Been thinking about doing cams next in my '04 GT!..

I have just simple bolt ons and a rebuilt motor, upr off road x pipe with slp lm1 exhaust, bbk shorty headers

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Thanks man I love it!!
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I'm also wondering about the drivability of the stage 2s on the street

The drivability is great, alittle low end lost but no much at all, steeper gears would make up for that but all in all it's great, I had my heads polished and changed out the springs and retainers, the cams just drop right in but deff use clay to make sure of clearance
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Sounds awesome man, definitely makes me want some cams
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