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Old 01-18-2014, 10:02 PM   #1
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2001 GT 2.1 KB 14psi intercooled help

Hey guys. Just bought my 2001 gt with the kenne bell already installed. I do know it's the 2.1l intercooled twin screw model. The little black reservoir beside the relocated alternator says 15psi on top, not too sure what that means. I have 4:10 gears in the rear, and when I stomp on it (auto trans) and let it wind out, my boost gauge goes all the way to 14psi. Is there anyway this 2v engine may of had some internal work before they put the KB kit on? 14psi would be a lot on a stock 2v. I'm just not sure how to tell or not so I don't want to go any further in fear of blowing the motor in case it's still stock. Can anyone help?
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The only way i know to figure out if you've got forged internals is to tear it open and look, unfortunately. Do you have access to the previous owner who did the work?
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Not at all. Bought it from a dealer. Sucks I know.. But the dealer won't even give me the Info to contact the original owner.. Is there anyway to look the owner up by the VIN #?
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2001 GT 2.1 KB 14psi intercooled help

I don't think that'd be possible. However, someone may come in and correct me, but 14 lbs of boost seems like a lot. So maybe it is forged. Or it could be on the borderline of its limits. your best bet to be absolutely sure, would to have someone look at the car before you go much further. The last thing you wanna do is grenade the engine.
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True story man, especially when you have a loan on it lol. I guess I can dyno it and see where I'm at with it. But yeah 14psi is a lot even more so with 4.10s lol I think in gonna drop them back to 3.55 and go ahead and upgrade to 31 spline axels while I'm in there.
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Can't even imagine how easy you break the tires loose with that combo. Got any pics of this beast?
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Old 01-18-2014, 10:34 PM   #7
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Honestly man it's ridiculous how easy you can break loose in this thing. I was on the interstate doing 75mph and decided to see what it had top end wise when I first got it.. So I stomped it and it broke loose on me and before I knew it I was at 140 and climbing lol
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Very nice car man. Definitely has some quality mods done to it.
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Thanks buddy. Hope someone else can give me a little insight on the motor on here.
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You should take it in for a dyno tune and see what the tuner tell you


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Also isn't 14psi on a 2v like ~500rwhp?


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Also isn't 14psi on a 2v like ~500rwhp?


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It really depends on the build... But yeah. With 14-15psi you'd expect 500-600rwhp if it can use it efficiently enough and has the fuel and tune for it.
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I think I will. But yeah it is pushing 14psi. I couldn't believe it either when I first got it. It is tuned on 93 octane
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500-600 RWHP the engine would have to be built right??
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500-600 RWHP the engine would have to be built right??

That's what I was thinking..hmmm


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Is there any other way to tell besides putting it on a dyno?
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Maybe drop the oil pan and take a look at the rods and see if there is any markings on the crank.
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:10 AM   #20
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That's a possibility. I'm gonna call kenne bell and see what they have to say.
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500-600 RWHP the engine would have to be built right??

Yes. It would HAVE to be built. Unless you got a freak of nature factory build that is still holding together... Usually stock internals come apart pretty quickly at 420-450rwhp. At 500+ they would just break. Period. Haha
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If you are running that much boost and you don't have forged internals your engine will let you know soon.........
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If you are running that much boost and you don't have forged internals your engine will let you know soon.........

He said he's already done WOT pulls. I don't think the engine would last even one wot pull at 14psi


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He said he's already done WOT pulls. I don't think the engine would last even one wot pull at 14psi


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It might last 1 pull. But not much more.
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It might last 1 pull. But not much more.

Yeah guys I've done countless pulls. From a dig and just like 40, 60, and 70mph pulls and it is stout all the way through. Engine never acts like it's struggling.
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Yeah guys I've done countless pulls. From a dig and just like 40, 60, and 70mph pulls and it is stout all the way through. Engine never acts like it's struggling.

I'm going to say it's probably got some internal work done to it, because 14pounds on stock motor the motor would not last very long! Still for safety sake get it checked out!
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I guess dyno would be the only way to tell for sure right? I might call kenne bell tech support and see what they have to say today.
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I guess dyno would be the only way to tell for sure right? I might call kenne bell tech support and see what they have to say today.

Well tech support would just tell you exactly what we are telling you. To run 14 psi you need a built engine but there's no way to tell if it's built unless you pop it open.

But the way I see it.. Take it easy for now and run it on hope and faith for as long as you can. If it breaks it breaks and you can fix it. Unless you wanna spend the time and money to take it apart and check... Which I would just run it like it is. If it didn't break at the first WOT then you're probably good. I just wouldn't drop a 4krpm launch at a drag strip anytime soon..
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Like mentioned earlier you could take the pan off and take a look at the rod caps etc..etc..
But more than likely in any case, to know for sure your going to have to physically look at the internals. You might get lucky and find a tag on the block or something if it was a crate shortblock from MMR, DSS, or some company that makes those kinds of combos.
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You guys think there will be clearly visible marking on the rod caps? And it's prob not too hard to drop the oil pan is it?
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You'd have to know what a stock rod would look like compared to a forged one and see if they used arp bolts..... Things like that. I would probably take it to a shop that works on Stangs or performance stuff if you have one close. They can take a look and should be able to tell you.

One thing is for sure, there are worse problems to have than yours right now! Lol
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Haha that is for sure man!! Btw nice stang!
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There was a guy with a 3v stock block and internals that was on 20 pounds with a turbo and made just under 700 rwhp. His lasted 4 years with everything stock.... Its possible... Can't ever count out freak of nature type things

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