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Old 02-02-2014, 05:33 PM   #1
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Alignment Question

Ok so I got these outer tie rod ends today bc I need to replace them on my 2004

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I've been reading everywhere that I need an alignment after.

Is this alignment ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!?

I also have these solid aluminum steering rack bushings

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Should I just go ahead and install these at the same time? I don't know if these REQUIRE an alignment as well.

So my tires are getting pretty worn but it's not time to change them YET. After I get tires I'm gonna need to get an alignment then too.

So..

How long after I install the tie rod ends/bushings can I go without an alignment? That is if I measure precisely and screw them on right not just eyeball it.

Should I just bite the bullet and get if after my install or can I drive it without one until I get new tires? (Who knows when that will be)

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Can a mod change this title to "alignment question"?


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In my opinion, i would get both installed at the same time. And then get it aligned. A lot of the time when you mess with suspension, things shift. I would rather align it right away, just to make sure it's back in spec, and not causing any additional wear and tear.

But that's just what I would do.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:24 PM   #6
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In my opinion, i would get both installed at the same time. And then get it aligned. A lot of the time when you mess with suspension, things shift. I would rather align it right away, just to make sure it's back in spec, and not causing any additional wear and tear.

But that's just what I would do.

Cool thanks I was just looking for some reassurance I guess.

It's gonna suck having to get it aligned again after tires though


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Let me ask you this; are your tires wearing evenly? Or are they wearing down on one side more than the other.

If they're wearing evenly, then i don't think you'll need an alignment after putting new tires on. I never got one done after putting new wheel/tires on, and they seem to be wearing out evenly.
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Yeah they're wearing pretty even. I checked today when I had to wheels off. But the tread is getting down there I'll take a pic in a little while so you can see.


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Ok here's my tread. It kind of hard to see because it started raining and my tires are wet but..

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I'd wait until just before you put new tires on to replace the front end parts.
If you can't wait, you can still, maybe, get away without an alignment by CAREFULLY counting the amount of turns while removing the old tie rod and installing the new one the EXACT amount of turns so that your "toe" ends up close to where you started.
You can install the parts and get it aligned, just put your most "evenly" worn tires on the front and it should be fine.

The absolute best way to do it is to replace everything that you're going to replace, put on new tires, and have it aligned... In that order.
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:32 PM   #11
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I was going to change the parts this Saturday because idk if you saw this video but this is what my car sounds like now lol:
http://youtu.be/eZM-lfdV5WE


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Yes you get an alignment when you change the tie rod ends. I mean you can count exactly how many turns it took to get the old ones off and install the new ones the exact came amount and it should be close but no guarantees. Also if your old alignment was off or you haven't had one done in awhile you should get one done.
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Yes YOU need to do a alignment
Tie rods are pretty much the toe of the front suspension , and very important to get the car steering straight and steering wheel centered.
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Get it aligned. There is a small chance that if you were very careful when replacing them that the alignment might still be in spec but I wouldn't put money on it. Better to do it than after a few weeks your tires are toast.
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Yes you get an alignment when you change the tie rod ends. I mean you can count exactly how many turns it took to get the old ones off and install the new ones the exact came amount and it should be close but no guarantees. Also if your old alignment was off or you haven't had one done in awhile you should get one done.

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ACTUAL tech question

You don't have to get an alignment after new tires
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Or maybe a place that offers unlimited alignment for a certain period of time. Near me, NTB has deals where you can buy unlimited for a year or whatever on one car one VIN.
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Or maybe a place that offers unlimited alignment for a certain period of time. Near me, NTB has deals where you can buy unlimited for a year or whatever on one car one VIN.

I didn't know that was a thing


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Didn't even think of this...
The place that aligned my truck will re-do it for a whole year.

They've already done it twice...

Problem solved.
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Or just look up on google/youtube how to do it yourself if you've got tools and buy the stuff to DIY in the driveway. Apparnetly its actually pretty easy to do an alignment in the driveway. There's a reason the place around me only charges like $60 I guess lol.
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Yeah the places around me are ~$50 so I might just go ahead and do it. Thanks for the advice everyone I will let you know how the install goes


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Or just look up on google/youtube how to do it yourself if you've got tools and buy the stuff to DIY in the driveway. Apparnetly its actually pretty easy to do an alignment in the driveway. There's a reason the place around me only charges like $60 I guess lol.
I have, one time that I can remember, gotten the toe within specs, in my driveway, by only using a tape measure.
The last two times, though, I had a hard time driving the 9 miles to the alignment shop.

I must be losing it in my old age...
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If you just get two straight pieces of whatever and then attach them to your wheels at the same height and then get two tape measures and measure them and split the difference then thats your toe.


Make sure your wheel is straight before you start and then start adjusting your sleeves. It doesnt take much move the toe a 1/16 of an inch
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