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Old 02-13-2014, 11:44 PM   #1
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The joys of a plastic intake

Found my intake leak, right where I suspected and right where they blow 99% of the time.







Just a nice info bulletin for anyone with a PI intake, the metal crossover does not make you immune to ****ty overall designs. If you smell coolant and can't see it and you have a metal crossover this is your likely culprit, right under the metal crossover under the tstat housing where it meets the plastic.

Seeing as there is no fixing this, I'm going to order a new FRPP one from AM or LRS or CJP or wherever just to make sure I'm getting one that was never used and potentially will have these issues. Also good practice to run a 180 tstat in these intakes to get the hot fluid moving sooner which I have on order. Of course this lets go a few months before I plan on Tork Teching but oh well. Something will probably come up and I'll be NA on this for another year lol.

And no, not ordering an Eddy or TFS or junk chinese Typhoon intake. Despite its flaws the plastic PI intake is actually a very good performer, light, cheap and easy to remove if need be. New one with a 180 stat should be fine for awhile.
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i think AM has them the cheapest. I've had to buy 3 in the past
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Just saying. With a little port matching my typhoon intake is pretty solid. And looks fantastic.. And never have to worry about it blowing apart. Haha
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i think AM has them the cheapest. I've had to buy 3 in the past
They're $215 on AM, also $215 on LRS. Rather give my business to Tony if all things are equal or close to it. I ordered the PI from LRS at 9AM and got an email 2 hours later that it was shipped. Been ordering from them since the early 2000s when they were 50resto and had 1 problem the entire time which was swiftly resolved.

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Just saying. With a little port matching my typhoon intake is pretty solid. And looks fantastic.. And never have to worry about it blowing apart. Haha
I'll run this intake till I get the Tork Tech or until it blows. If I have an issue where no Tork Tech for Scotty and this new PI intake gives up the ghost I'll buy the Eddy 10 times vs the PP Chinese one.
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Latemodel is bad ***. They have a 5% also. I order and everything is at my door the next day.

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Yeah I think AM does it too but they all do the discounts. Like I said all things being close to equal I will give LRS my money first.
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I live 2-3 hours from them that's why I get it the next day

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I just didn't like that you have to get the elbow and different fuel rails with the eddy.
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I just didn't like that you have to get the elbow and different fuel rails with the eddy.

I think mmr makes an adapter plate for the eddy intake so you can use the plenum n tb you have now

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I just didn't like that you have to get the elbow and different fuel rails with the eddy.
$350 for the eddy intake, $109 for the rails, $70 for the MMR adapter to re-use stock style plenum = $429.

Typhoon = $649.

I'll save the $200+ lol.

Or I'll save the $400+ by going with the replacement PI intake which should last a good while being brand new espeically with the 180 tstat in there. Also will set the fans to come on earlier at 180 just like in my Cobra.
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The joys of a plastic intake

.I've been reading mixed things about the 180 tstat. Some people say the iron block loves heat? Idk if that's true
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Scotty im assuming you will use a tuner to set fans earlier or is there another way?
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$350 for the eddy intake, $109 for the rails, $70 for the MMR adapter to re-use stock style plenum = $429.

Typhoon = $649.

I'll save the $200+ lol.

Or I'll save the $400+ by going with the replacement PI intake which should last a good while being brand new espeically with the 180 tstat in there. Also will set the fans to come on earlier at 180 just like in my Cobra.
I got my "typhoon" for $415 shipped, actually. And it was even the polished version. Lol
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Well then you got a good deal. Still $200 more than a new PI intake that flows better and does not have heat soak issues

I just have to deal with the plastic potentially cracking.

And yes, fans will be set in the QH tune.
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I see what you're saying. My PI intake cracked ten miles into driving my new engine build. And that was before the supercharger. So I wasn't chancing that.
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If this one cracks 10 miles in I'm going to call LRS and see what they will do for me. Probably nothing since its installed and I'm not a certified auto mechanic so they have no real way of knowing if I'm an idiot or not (hope they don't ask my wife). I'm going to go with a little over minimum torque though and soak the bolts in break-free to make sure they are clean.

Also going to have to pull the crossover since mine is tapped for a second sensor and swap them so I'll probably but a very light bead of RTV around the ports when I do.

Also as far as torquing obviously I'm going to do the correct torque pattern and go in stages. Hand tight, half torque, full torque. I'll go over it after a few heat cycles and re-torque and then again a few cycles later. The good news is the intake shows up today and it'll take me all of an hour to put it back together.
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Finally got around to messing with the damn thing a bit when I came home... this is taking forever and I need to get the intake on TONIGHT. Just FYI, this is what under the crossover SHOULD look like:



Vs this:



Yay, spiffy new intake from LRS:



And no they don't come with the second sensor bung, I had to drill/tap that myself since the 98 computer uses two separate sensors where the 99-up only uses one combined one.
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Just replaced my intake manifold this past weekend, threw on a trick flow plenum also. I had 3 different cracks/chunks missing where the crossover is on mine
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I've got the TFS plenum already. Still has stock TB but on my 5.0 I picked up nothing going to a bigger one so I'll probably leave the 65mm on there for meow.

But that sucks that it happened to you too and it also sucks that the PI intake is such a good intake otherwise. I've been doing stangs for a long time now but always pushrods so this is my first time owning a modular although I helped my buddy with a few mods on his 04 when he had it. One trick I saw was to throw a 180 tstat at it which should keep the coolant going through there more often and cooler so a 180 is in there now. Just need to get the plug boots back on and the inlet tube back on and she's good to fire up. And then right back down for rear axle work and a trans swap. Lol.
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Yuppppp that same thing happened to me at ~150k miles they are ****. But they don't have the greatest direct replacements either
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