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Old 02-19-2014, 01:38 AM   #1
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So I'm looking for HID foglights and I found these ones. Anybody use these one and are they complicated to install or a plug and play or what? Any help would be appreciated. http://everythingcarparts.com/97-04-...80-80k-40.html
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Those will do you no good without ballasts and more wiring.

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Yea u will need ballast. Look for a kit instead of just bulbs
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PO put HIDs in my 98 and I hate them with the fire of a thousand suns. They have to warm up, they have hotspots, light is scattered etc... If you get the DEPO projector housings they are good but you need to get the right ones. And yes, its not as simple as putting a HID bulb in stock wiring. You need to wire the ballasts in per whatever brand's diagrams show you and then install the HID bulbs.

Now actually the fogs are OK as HIDs but I had MUCH better results with a good set of super bright incandescents like Silverstars. Those effers lit up the road like nobody's business and were super white.

So IMHO, if you don't have projectors just get some super whites. I just picked up a set of Philips Crystalvision 9007 headlight bulbs and 893 fogs for $44 shipped to replace the cheapass HIDs the PO put in. I'd list the HIDs for sale but I don't have the cups to keep the bulbs from touching anything so that's out.
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I ordered the slim ballast kit from DDM tuning. I got the 35W ballasts with 6000K bulb color for my fogs. Looks sick especially with just the parking lights and fogs on. get the mounting brackets so the ballasts dont rip off when you floor it (not admitting that I made that mistake....)

DDM Tuning 35W and 55W HID Kits

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I have the slim ballast kit from DDM Tuning. It's around $30 for everything you'll need for the foglights. I went with the 35W ballasts and 6000K bulb color. I definitely recommend getting the mounting brackets too. They're cheap.

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I have the slim ballast kit from DDM Tuning. It's around $30 for everything you'll need for the foglights. I went with the 35W ballasts and 6000K bulb color. I definitely recommend getting the mounting brackets too. They're cheap.



Here's what mine looks like:

Looks sweet.. How much did you pay for the headlights and fog lights together? Been looking at these but not wanting to drop 200$ on lights :\
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I spent $85 total. For the headlights I went with the 55W ballasts with the same 6000K bulb color
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sorry for the double post above. i dont know why sometimes it takes a few days for my posts to show up. but theres a link to the kits I have above
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Ripped out the whatever kit that was in there and went back to bulbs for now but I might go back to HIDs, just a better brand. The PO had the ballasts zip tied in by the wires and one of them was chaffed halfway through. I could probably re-install the foglights but need bi-xenon for the headlights vs the chintz HID/incandescent combo light that was in there. Or just buy new HIDs and re-use the ballasts and everything... they still work but I don't like the 6k blue lights. Would rather have 4500k in there.
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I have the slim ballast kit from DDM Tuning. It's around $30 for everything you'll need for the foglights. I went with the 35W ballasts and 6000K bulb color. I definitely recommend getting the mounting brackets too. They're cheap.

Here's what mine looks like:
Looks really nice I'm looking for that same color for my 06 gt
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Getting back into this HID thing. Looking at the DEPO projectors and black corners right now but I might just put the ballasts I had back in the stock projectors for now or get a bi-xenon kit from DDM for the hi-beams. It is illegal to put HIDs in stock housings though... although a lot of ppl do it. Would just get four 5000k bulbs for $30 and roll.
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Getting back into this HID thing. Looking at the DEPO projectors and black corners right now but I might just put the ballasts I had back in the stock projectors for now or get a bi-xenon kit from DDM for the hi-beams. It is illegal to put HIDs in stock housings though... although a lot of ppl do it. Would just get four 5000k bulbs for $30 and roll.
Even for fogs?
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LED's are quick & easy.
V-LED have some bright *** bulbs.
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LED's are quick & easy.
V-LED have some bright *** bulbs.
U pefer leds over hids?
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Looks so niceee 6k?
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Even for fogs?
I don't think so for fogs but who knows. If you have your fogs aimed where it blinds oncoming traffic you deserve to get a ticket for being a moron tho lol. Also if you are doing the fogs for functionality you run 3k HIDs which are the brightest and yellow light is best at cutting through fog but ppl don't like the "JDM" yellow look.

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LED's are quick & easy.
V-LED have some bright *** bulbs.
Not as bright as HID and HIDs are quick and easy too. Plug in the ballast, plug in the bulbs, mount the ballast and hi-beam controller if you have it, run power if required and call it a day. Not sure why ppl make it into some sort of rocket science experiment but it isn't.

And now that I know that I can use any old HID bulb I want with my 35w ballasts I'll be putting them back in with a chrome depo projector just as soon as I get a few other things I need done in the car completed. I was going to get the black lights but with the chrome ring they just look too ricey. Plus I can always smoke the lenses later if I want and I don't have to buy blacked out corners or fogs either.

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If you are doing HIDs in a 94-98 and want to do it legally and properly, these are the way to do it unless you retrofit a TSX projector or something for big $$$. These don't make as nice a beam as a newer OEM unit but they'll make your HIDs function like they should and the beam is pretty decent. Also being a totally chrome housing hides the ring around the lense so it doesn't look ricey at all IMO like the Raxioms or even the blacked out version of these.

They ALSO come with a wiring kit and relays that allow the HIDs to stay on when the incandescents for the hi-beams activate. If you have done the fog light mod that lets them stay on independently this means you'll have 6 lights for dark roads lol. My setup will be a 5k 35w HID in the projector and a Silverstar bulb in the hi-beam with 35w HIDs in the Envoy fogs I've got. Not sure if I'm going to run 3k or match them to the headlights yet.
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8000k both headlights and fogs.
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I've learned a LOT doing a ton of research on properly lighting up my SN95 and I really can't believe I was rolling around with a cheap 8-10k kit in reflectors... I'm sure I blinded a bunch of ppl and did get flashed more than a few times although I rarely drove at night and always meant to get around to ripping them out which I have. I also can't believe I was thinking of doing it again lol.

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-DEPO projectors
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-Philips HIR 9011 halogen bulbs modded to fit in 9005 slots for the hi-beams
-Nokya Hyper Yellow 2500k halogen bulbs for the fogs

This will allow great visibility for the lo-beams, the HIR bulbs are THE brightest halogens you can get period and the Nokya Hyper yellows are a super bright bulb with a yellow tint that is actually the best color to see in fog/rain conditions. I'll post up pics when done, I'm looking forward to being able to see properly out of this thing for the first time... pretty much since I've had it.
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HID Fog Lights

Lots of stock cars and trucks blind me. Some are factory HID some not. I really hate the *** that follow so close with high beams on that my side and rear view mirrors blind me. Makes me want to put the brightest Light I can find on a swivel and blind them back.
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Lots of stock cars and trucks blind me. Some are factory HID some not. I really hate the *** that follow so close with high beams on that my side and rear view mirrors blind me. Makes me want to put the brightest Light I can find on a swivel and blind them back.

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Problem is you can't aim HIDs in reflector housings in a way where you are not just spewing light every which way including up into oncoming cars. Believe me, I tried. Anyone here running HIDs in factory housings should park 5 ft from a wall and take a picture and post it up here. Guarantee you'll have no cutoff line and be shooting light all over the goddamn place. As far as a 55w kit, there is no reason for a 55w kit. All factory HIDs are 35w or even 20w because a properly fitted/aimed quality HID in a projector will be more than bright enough at those wattages.

As far as fogs, actually the smaller the reflector housing the more glare you'll create. HIDs are pointless in fogs as far as functionality and they can still blind incoming traffic even if aimed low.

In all honesty, HIDs in factory housings are for the bling factor and that is all. If you are more concerned about looking like one of the FatF Civics running around go ahead. If you are concerned about actually SEEING, road safety, other drivers and the law you'll do it correctly.

Like I said I already ripped my HIDs out of my reflectors that the PO did and I researched, researched, researched before I did anything else and I'm very upset at myself for running those 8k things for even probably the dozen times I actually drove my 98 when it was dark enough to need headlights. I was researching putting in the correct color HIDs @4300k (OEM) but even in factory housings they'll be terrible too.

And the more I learn the more I notice this sort of rice stuff. Someone in a 2003ish Explorer this morning had what looked like 10K HIDs in factory housings/fogs and I literally could not see even up in my Expedition. I flashed him a few times and nothing, probably gave me the finger I dunno but if this is you I hope you get pulled over and get a fix it ticket. A cop can even tow you for non "functional" headlights if they want so beware. In hindsight I wish that a cop had pulled my *** over with those old HIDs I had and told me to ****ing fix them.

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edit: And when DEPO projectors are $110 shipped and they even come with halogens installed so you can get them installed/aimed before doing your HIDs, I'm not exactly sure why ppl keep insisting on putting HIDs in stock housings. I mean the DEPO is not a factory retrofit but it at least gets the HIDs under control and allows you to aim them properly. Also if you want the "bling" factor of all the different colors, use an LED bulb. Cree makes badass auto LEDs that are PnP with most every car and will give you the HID look without all the issues that come with putting a HID in a factory housing.
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Problem is you can't aim HIDs in reflector housings in a way where you are not just spewing light every which way including up into oncoming cars. Believe me, I tried. Anyone here running HIDs in factory housings should park 5 ft from a wall and take a picture and post it up here. Guarantee you'll have no cutoff line and be shooting light all over the goddamn place. As far as a 55w kit, there is no reason for a 55w kit. All factory HIDs are 35w or even 20w because a properly fitted/aimed quality HID in a projector will be more than bright enough at those wattages.

As far as fogs, actually the smaller the reflector housing the more glare you'll create. HIDs are pointless in fogs as far as functionality and they can still blind incoming traffic even if aimed low.

In all honesty, HIDs in factory housings are for the bling factor and that is all. If you are more concerned about looking like one of the FatF Civics running around go ahead. If you are concerned about actually SEEING, road safety, other drivers and the law you'll do it correctly.

Like I said I already ripped my HIDs out of my reflectors that the PO did and I researched, researched, researched before I did anything else and I'm very upset at myself for running those 8k things for even probably the dozen times I actually drove my 98 when it was dark enough to need headlights. I was researching putting in the correct color HIDs @4300k (OEM) but even in factory housings they'll be terrible too.

And the more I learn the more I notice this sort of rice stuff. Someone in a 2003ish Explorer this morning had what looked like 10K HIDs in factory housings/fogs and I literally could not see even up in my Expedition. I flashed him a few times and nothing, probably gave me the finger I dunno but if this is you I hope you get pulled over and get a fix it ticket. A cop can even tow you for non "functional" headlights if they want so beware. In hindsight I wish that a cop had pulled my *** over with those old HIDs I had and told me to ****ing fix them.

/soapbox.

edit: And when DEPO projectors are $110 shipped and they even come with halogens installed so you can get them installed/aimed before doing your HIDs, I'm not exactly sure why ppl keep insisting on putting HIDs in stock housings. I mean the DEPO is not a factory retrofit but it at least gets the HIDs under control and allows you to aim them properly. Also if you want the "bling" factor of all the different colors, use an LED bulb. Cree makes badass auto LEDs that are PnP with most every car and will give you the HID look without all the issues that come with putting a HID in a factory housing.

I was only thinking 55 watt because we tried a 35 watt kit in my old 05 and my cousins 97 and had issues until we swapped up to 55 watt kit. But if I can't figure something out w/o blinding everyone I'll go back to some sylvania silverstars. I already ordered them so I'm going to atleast try them
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Are there just bulbs that you can get bluish coloring or do you have to have the box that you wire in? Bulbs is so much easier lol
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Yeah get colored bulbs or LEDs. Although it is illegal to have blue lights on your car if you are not law enforcement/EMT/fire etc...
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So like these are illegal? I am talking around this color
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That would be up to the cop. You could argue those are white, real blue isn't going to start until around 10k. However at 8k your lumen output is way down from what it should be anway and you are still scattering light all over the place.

But as I said before if you want to be all "bling blingin" go for whatever you want. Just don't be surprised of some cop having a bad day pulls you over for blue lights or HIDs or both.

/soapboax... again... mainly because I literally got hit with unaimed reflector HIDs this morning and this is all right after I've been doing all this research and making sure I'm doing it properly/responsibly. It was so bad I saw an afterimage. Think about what you are doing to other ppl when you mess with your headlights and god forbid you are on a two lane road and the person you are blinding drifts over in front of you at 60mph because they can't see.
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That would be up to the cop. You could argue those are white, real blue isn't going to start until around 10k. However at 8k your lumen output is way down from what it should be anway and you are still scattering light all over the place.

But as I said before if you want to be all "bling blingin" go for whatever you want. Just don't be surprised of some cop having a bad day pulls you over for blue lights or HIDs or both.

/soapboax... again... mainly because I literally got hit with unaimed reflector HIDs this morning and this is all right after I've been doing all this research and making sure I'm doing it properly/responsibly. It was so bad I saw an afterimage. Think about what you are doing to other ppl when you mess with your headlights and god forbid you are on a two lane road and the person you are blinding drifts over in front of you at 60mph because they can't see.

But like 6k's are ok and you can achieve those more bluish white color from bulbs only? Without the ballast or whatever they are that you have to mount and splice in?
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