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Old 03-06-2014, 08:43 AM   #1
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Hi all! I''m back (former 04 GT owner) and back in the market... I looked at specs, and would of course prefer Mach, but may be cost prohibitive. I am looking at low/mid mileage clean vehicles and wondering your feelings, besides saving a couple to 3 grand, what /if substantial differences (pro or con) on each vehicle.
I am familiar with the GT of course and still have some parts, including my SCT tuner... Questions are:
1 Basically, does the stock Mach handle any better/ride harsher? I believe it has higher spring rates, sits a little lower, has larger brakes and comes standard with subframe connectors.
2 I like the idea of the 4V heads, saw compression ratios different, and was wondering is the bottom end any different? (Mostly from a reliability/possible future supercharger upgrade perspective)
3 I heard Mach comes with performance clutch from factory? Am aware also rear ratio 3.55 vs 3.27.
4 Are there many common or known failures inherent to the Mach motor/drivetrain over GT models?

Any other noteworthy differences or advice greatly appreciated!
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It's basically the same car as my Bullitt, just with a 4V...
If you have a few extra dollars to spend, I'd definitely go with the Mach, I mean, come on, FOUR VALVE!!!
It will ride a little harsher than a stock GT but will handle better. The brakes are awesome!
Pretty much the same drivetrain as a GT so reliability should be the same.
Here's the best part though, the Mach will hold it's value much better than a GT...
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Mostly right, the Bullitt's Torque is off. It makes about 5-10 more than the GT, so around 310-315lb-ft.
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hey guys. thx for info. this is kinda what i was expecting to hear. screaming- that is one of the comparisons i found on the net b4 posting
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Hi all! I''m back (former 04 GT owner) and back in the market... I looked at specs, and would of course prefer Mach, but may be cost prohibitive. I am looking at low/mid mileage clean vehicles and wondering your feelings, besides saving a couple to 3 grand, what /if substantial differences (pro or con) on each vehicle.
I am familiar with the GT of course and still have some parts, including my SCT tuner... Questions are:
1 Basically, does the stock Mach handle any better/ride harsher? I believe it has higher spring rates, sits a little lower, has larger brakes and comes standard with subframe connectors.
2 I like the idea of the 4V heads, saw compression ratios different, and was wondering is the bottom end any different? (Mostly from a reliability/possible future supercharger upgrade perspective)
3 I heard Mach comes with performance clutch from factory? Am aware also rear ratio 3.55 vs 3.27.
4 Are there many common or known failures inherent to the Mach motor/drivetrain over GT models?

Any other noteworthy differences or advice greatly appreciated!
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Of course the Mach is a better pick, but depending on where you live they can be 2x more. It's harder to find low mileage gt's also vs low mileage Mach's. Mach is overall a better car in every area except for the one that affects your pocket book

You can put the extra dough into the GT an make it faster than the Mach, but for the same cash that you would pay for a Mach.

If you do that though... You still don't have a Mach. Lol I'm ok with that though. At least until I'm out of college, a GT will do me fine, and will probably be fine for you too. All situational.
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Mach for sure, 4v, straight axle with 3.55 hood, seats, instrument cluster, subframes, and sounds awesome with lts and stingers.
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Mostly right, the Bullitt's Torque is off. It makes about 5-10 more than the GT, so around 310-315lb-ft.

Where do you get that info? Because I can't find it because what I read is ford changed the hp but never the tq numbers just wondering,
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And op I would defiantly go with the a Mach!! You will not regret it!

And you may also look for a .Bullitt
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That's the cool thing about the Bullitt... nobody knows. It's shrouded in mystery.

They have been known to dyno, in stock form, at VERY close to their published crankshaft power rating.
The numbers are all over the board though...
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Yes the Bullitt's are pretty cool I was just wondering where he got the info, I have heard other people say the same thing.
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The bullitt intake makes about 5 ft lbs more accross the board than the PI. Problem is its 40lbs.
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The bullitt intake makes about 5 ft lbs more accross the board than the PI. Problem is its 40lbs.

I guess it evens itself out lol. It needs those extra 5 to haul that extra 40


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And as far as the GT vs the Mach. With the Mach you are basically getting a 4V with some interior/exterior cosmetics and a collector number. That's it. I personally think a lower mileage GT for $6-$7k bone stock is the better buy but that's just me.
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$6-7k???! what state do you live in! i am looking at 2004 models with GT premium trim, and even private sales with less than 70000 miles hover 'around' 10K. lower mileage units up to 12k (there are some dreamers looking for 14-17 on their 20000 mile or less GT too!)

ive seen clean looking machs with less than 60k in the $13 to 15000 range
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If you can get a Mach then grab it!.. Pound for pound it's a much better platform than the GT!..
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$6-7k???! what state do you live in! i am looking at 2004 models with GT premium trim, and even private sales with less than 70000 miles hover 'around' 10K. lower mileage units up to 12k (there are some dreamers looking for 14-17 on their 20000 mile or less GT too!)

ive seen clean looking machs with less than 60k in the $13 to 15000 range
In NJ and you can get a really nice 2V for $6-$8k if you are patient and scour all the big forum classifeds, CL and don't bother with the dealers unless you see one priced like a private value car.
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If you can get a Mach then grab it!.. Pound for pound it's a much better platform than the GT!..

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