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Old 03-22-2014, 01:20 PM   #1
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rwd and fwd

So a buddy of mine last night tells me he plans to pick up a 2008 Nissan Altima coupe ..
He tried telling me how great of a car it is compared to a mustang...
Although I will be honest in saying I think the body of the car looks really nice its still a fwd car.. tried explaining to him the difference and well... anyone have some opinions on fwd vs rwd cars....
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This is one of the best "Why FWD sucks" articles I have ever read.

However frankly if he has driven both and still thinks FWD is better then there's no point in pursuing the conversation as he is incapable of "getting it"...
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tried telling him if he wants a Nissan go with a 350z or a infinity g35 coupe
the Altima is cute and all but its fwd...
part of his argument was we do get winter here and at least with this car he can drive in the snow....
I drive my Mustang year round...
in my opinion fwd cars are good in winter because of the weight over the drive tires from the engine...
I told him.. put a few sand bags, shovel and some kitty litter in the trunk with some good winter tires and you will do just as good.. weight is weight
besides u can have more fun in the winter in rwd
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If that Altima is VQ powered with a 6 spd manual, it is a better car than a Mustang, regardless of which axle the power goes to.
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Thats your opinion, but Even the 2014 vq altima is only making 270 hp and 253 tq. And weight is comprable to an sn95. Plus its helleva lot more expensive (21,000+). Put 3K into the mustang and it'll win every time.
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its a 2008 with manual trany.. not sure what the specs are on that
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Its the same in 08'. Its still more expensive; but stock for stock, it would be close. Drivers race I'd say. I've had a couple try me in my new edge, and fox. I haven't lost to one yet, but I've got bolt ons and gears on the new edge, and a vortech @ 5 psi on the fox.
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Thats your opinion, but Even the 2014 vq altima is only making 270 hp and 253 tq. And weight is comprable to an sn95. Plus its helleva lot more expensive (21,000+). Put 3K into the mustang and it'll win every time.
I was not referring to performance numbers. I am simply stating that an Altima with the VQ and 6 spd is a better overall car than a Mustang.

That said, in a drag race between a stock 2v 4.6 5spd vs a 2008+ VQ 6spd Altima coupe, my money would be on the Altima.
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All other things being equal a V6 cannot deliver the torque that a V8 can produce--either as much or over such a broad rpm range--that is why they have to be driven like you just stole it.

Plus they sound like crap.

And a "Nissan Altima"--give me a break. I would rather stab myself in the crotch with a cattle prod than be seen driving something like that...

Just my $0.02 worth...
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If we are going to make silly comparisons, in a race between 2008 "sport" coupes who would win this match-up?

The 2008 Altima or this:

2008 maserati granturismo; 405 HP/339 lbft, 4.2L 32V V8


I have driven this, it's the same dealership from whom I got my SL500...
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whats wrong with the Altima? if you were just using it for a daily driver I think it would be a great car for my Gf or Sister Or Mom or something.. its better then most daily drivers no?
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<snip>if you were just using it for a daily driver I think it would be a great car for my Gf or Sister Or Mom or something..<snip>
I agree 110%...
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I was not referring to performance numbers. I am simply stating that an Altima with the VQ and 6 spd is a better overall car than a Mustang.

That said, in a drag race between a stock 2v 4.6 5spd vs a 2008+ VQ 6spd Altima coupe, my money would be on the Altima.
If you weren't referring to performance, then what did you mean by overall? You might be on the wrong site. But I guess its all about your priorities, cause I believe quite the opposite. And I would love to bet you in that race, I could use some extra cash.... they run mid to high 14's.....lulz Heck, a 1990 LX 5.0 would be close!

Like I said it would be a driver race...
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whats wrong with the Altima? if you were just using it for a daily driver I think it would be a great car for my Gf or Sister Or Mom or something.. its better then most daily drivers no?
I guess I must be a die hard Ford guy then. I convinced my fiancee to trade in her Jetta for a Fusion. If she had an altima (or any other honda, toyota, or nissan), I probably would have never dated her to begin with! Lol
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If we are going to make silly comparisons, in a race between 2008 "sport" coupes who would win this match-up?

The 2008 Altima or this:

2008 maserati granturismo; 405 HP/339 lbft, 4.2L 32V V8


I have driven this, it's the same dealership from whom I got my SL500...
To answer your question, probably the Grandturismo......lol
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In all fairness to the Altima guy I have to say that I have "been there and done that" with regard to the practicalities and necessities of life. I drove Corollas for many many years while raising kids, etc. In fact I had an '85, the last of the RWD models, with a whopping 74 HP that would do 105 MPH flat out--with the windows closed. Windows open it maxed out at 94.

Now I am fortunate to be retired and not have to commute or really even worry about the cost of gas for the lousy 6000 miles a year I drive the car; that alters my expectations of the cars I own--kids are gone, my turn to have toys...
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I test drove an Altima coupe when my mom was looking for a new car. For a newish performance car it was terrible. I would put it performance wise right with my car, not fast, but fun. At least with my car it has a really nice exhaust note. The steering had zero weight, I like my steering to be on the heavier side, and the seating position was like I was driving the Tahoe again.
Tell your buddy that there is a reason why professional racecars aren't FWD.
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Ask yourself this. If you were at a track (circuit or drag strip) or even a good driving road (tail of the dragon etc), which car would you rather have? A FWD car (that's prone to understeering) or a proper RWD coupe? To say the Altima coupe is a better car than the Mustang is a matter of opinion I guess but I don't know anyone that's imagined themselves cruising in the summer time in their Altima...sorry, the Mustang is more than what it appears to be...it has character and soul...not to mention the drive wheels are positioned where God; Henry and Carroll intended them to be...

Your friend has a right to like what they what like, but it doesn't mean he knows what the hell he's talking about...lol...just sayin
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..not to mention the drive wheels are positioned where God; Henry and Carroll intended them to be...
That right there says it all!
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MMVEC said it best. The Nissan Altima and all other Nissans save for the Z and possibly the Juke (yeah, I know) are soulless driving appliances. The same goes for ALL Toyotas today and most if not all Hondas. The only Japanese/Korean car manufacturer to try to keep their cars fresh and different seems to be Hyundai...and that's a very recent development. But, that's not to say that domestic companies aren't guilty of the same thing. Ford-500-era Ford was a very very boring Ford apart from the new Mustang. Pontiac took it's dying breath pushing out rebadged Aveos and other nonsense (except for the G8 and GTO). The list goes on.
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This is one of the best "Why FWD sucks" articles I have ever read.

However frankly if he has driven both and still thinks FWD is better then there's no point in pursuing the conversation as he is incapable of "getting it"...

Good article, although he left out one of the main reasons I love RWD cars. RWD cars are waaaay easier to work on than FWD cars.

My girlfriend drives an 03 impala. It's a great car, probably a better car than my 98 mustang. It's a v6 with FWD. The v6 makes for a wonderful daily driver engine (although my undying love for v8s will never allow me to drive anything less). The v6 gets a nice balance of highway and city mileage, it is good on the highway, and handles itself well in weather.

But working on the car is a total pain in the ***. Changing the thermostat calls for the exhaust crossover to be removed. Everything is packed into a small space in front making it a total pain to work on.
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+1000000 I replaced the head gasket on my buddy's 03 Camry and I damn near had to rip the whole engine out just to finish the job. TOTAL Nightmare!!!!!! I'd rather replace 6 mustang head gaskets than do that again lol
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I have owned/ Driven both...

I have owned and driven both the Altima coupe and the Mustang.
They are 2 different cars. I also worked at the Nissan plant in Smyrna, TN.
I got rid of the Altima and got the Maxima, Better much ride. and even though they use the same motor they are set different. So don’t go by the advertisements.
The motor is capable of 270 doesn’t mean it uses the 270. Now I did have the CVT so it loses a lot of the Takeoff.. (feels and smells like a slipping clutch).
Coupe was a much stiffer ride and horrible for any kind of long rides. For the money a 05 Mustang would be a better choice than a Altima coupe.
Also part 2 is 2008 (270 HP) vs a 99-04 Mustang (265 HP).. Tell him to compare a 2002 Altima and see what he says! 
Now a V6 may help you stop light to stop light unless your Mustang can deliver.

Sorry for the long write up but I hate people who compare Apples and Oranges and say one is better. Also I agree with one of the other replies. I would take a 350Z over the Altima
Hummmmm I wonder what will keep its value longer too?? Just saying...
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I thought about going to get a Z when I was looking for my GT.. Read that the gt's are faster though so I said never mind TQ ftw
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i wouldn't get the 350z i would get the infinity g35 coupe... same car but with a back seat
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I have owned and driven both the Altima coupe and the Mustang.

They are 2 different cars. I also worked at the Nissan plant in Smyrna, TN.

I got rid of the Altima and got the Maxima, Better much ride. and even though they use the same motor they are set different. So don’t go by the advertisements.

The motor is capable of 270 doesn’t mean it uses the 270. Now I did have the CVT so it loses a lot of the Takeoff.. (feels and smells like a slipping clutch).

Coupe was a much stiffer ride and horrible for any kind of long rides. For the money a 05 Mustang would be a better choice than a Altima coupe.

Also part 2 is 2008 (270 HP) vs a 99-04 Mustang (265 HP).. Tell him to compare a 2002 Altima and see what he says! 

Now a V6 may help you stop light to stop light unless your Mustang can deliver.



Sorry for the long write up but I hate people who compare Apples and Oranges and say one is better. Also I agree with one of the other replies. I would take a 350Z over the Altima

Hummmmm I wonder what will keep its value longer too?? Just saying...

Yes two different cars...one is a grocery getter and the other is a sports car with a pedigree...not comparing, just stating the facts.
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i wouldn't get the 350z i would get the infinity g35 coupe... same car but with a back seat

That's the awesome thing about the Z... Having a 2 seater vert would be sweet... If it would have had more tq I'd be in that lol
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That's the awesome thing about the Z... Having a 2 seater vert would be sweet... If it would have had more tq I'd be in that lol

350Z is a great ride and is a direct competitor to the Mustang...
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Yes the 350z. Right along with the 05-2010's and the 370z is closer to the 5.0's
I almost bought a 350 when I looked at replacing my 05 I gave up and couldn't do it because of the Power difference of the 5.0.
And 2 years ago when I was looking they still wanted the same price for a first gen used as the 2013 I bought.
Again the mustang has held its value so much better.
I the same z car I looked 2 years ago is now the same price as the 2009 mustangs in this area.
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I work for nissan, Nissans are POS!

And for one thing.. Altima is a girls car..

If he doesn't get the 3.5L
He might as well want to get a purse.
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