Cutting springs - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1996-2004 Mustang GT



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 03-27-2014, 10:24 PM   #1
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Cutting springs

Hey guys, I think that me and a buddy are going to cut a coil out of my sr performance lowering springs this weekend. Are there any drawbacks to cutting a lowering spring? What should I be aware of?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-27-2014, 10:27 PM   #2
Registered Member
Regular
 
SpeedMob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Is it a progressive rate spring ? ( are all the coils equally spaced ?)
SpeedMob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2014, 10:29 PM   #3
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedMob View Post
Is it a progressive rate spring ? ( are all the coils equally spaced ?)

I'm not totally sure off the top of my head, I think they are tho. They are the sr performance springs that americanmuscle sells.
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-27-2014, 10:40 PM   #4
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mile high JDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Thronton
Region: Colorado
Posts: 5,989
If they're linear then you should be fine
I've been rocking cut springs for the last year with no issues at all.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1395977999699.jpg
Views:	244
Size:	88.4 KB
ID:	152107  
__________________
Sold - Black 2000 Mustang GT, gone but definitely not forgotten
- Silver 2007 Corvette
Current - DHG 2001 Bullitt
Mile high JDF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2014, 10:46 PM   #5
Registered Member
Regular
 
SpeedMob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Assuming they are linear, how low do they already make the car and how much lower are you lookin to go
SpeedMob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2014, 10:58 PM   #6
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
How can I tell if they are linear or not?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 12:19 AM   #7
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mile high JDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Thronton
Region: Colorado
Posts: 5,989
I would start with a half coil or a quarter coil. A full coil will slam the **** out of the car
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1395983907842.jpg
Views:	177
Size:	29.3 KB
ID:	152116  
__________________
Sold - Black 2000 Mustang GT, gone but definitely not forgotten
- Silver 2007 Corvette
Current - DHG 2001 Bullitt
Mile high JDF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 12:25 AM   #8
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,417
Like SpeedMob said, typically, if they are linear, the coils will be spaced evenly from top to bottom. Just like the name implies, the coils on a progressive spring become progressively closer together.
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 12:42 AM   #9
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
If I cut let's say 3/4 of a coil off my lowering spring, how much more bouncy will my car be when I hit dips? Like on a scale from 1-10 how bouncy lol.
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:27 AM   #10
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mile high JDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Thronton
Region: Colorado
Posts: 5,989
Depends on your shocks and spring rate. Mine isn't terribly bouncy, it rides rough, but it doesn't have the Honda bounce
__________________
Sold - Black 2000 Mustang GT, gone but definitely not forgotten
- Silver 2007 Corvette
Current - DHG 2001 Bullitt
Mile high JDF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:33 AM   #11
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile high JDF View Post
Depends on your shocks and spring rate. Mine isn't terribly bouncy, it rides rough, but it doesn't have the Honda bounce

It has sr performance springs, says it has the factory spring rate. And I have the factory shocks, what are your thoughts?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:46 AM   #12
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mile high JDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Thronton
Region: Colorado
Posts: 5,989
I have no clue what the SR spring rates. The factory shocks aren't gonna last forever, especially when lowered over 2". When your shocks go out then you'll get the Honda a bounce going.
__________________
Sold - Black 2000 Mustang GT, gone but definitely not forgotten
- Silver 2007 Corvette
Current - DHG 2001 Bullitt
Mile high JDF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:54 AM   #13
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile high JDF View Post
I have no clue what the SR spring rates. The factory shocks aren't gonna last forever, especially when lowered over 2". When your shocks go out then you'll get the Honda a bounce going.

I plan on going till there's only about 3/4-1inch of wheel gap, think I'll get a honda bounce or am I safe for a while?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:31 AM   #14
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,417
Lol.
U dont wanna hav no honda bounce goin on whichu whip yo witness...

Just cut the springs... I've got a set of Tokico's that I'll sell to you for cheap if you screw them up.
You have to pay the shipping though because I live in the middle of f'n nowhere...
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:35 AM   #15
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Has anyone heard anything with the tein springs? They drop 2.5" in the front and 2.3" in the rear. And would the tein be better than cutting my own?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:39 AM   #16
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,417
Knowing absolutely nothing about the springs that you are referring to... I'm going to say yes, your chances for a decent ride are better.
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:40 AM   #17
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
How bad is the ride quality going to be if I cut 1 coil off?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:45 AM   #18
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Salinas
Region: California
Posts: 7,417
Im not sure with the SR springs. I AM sure that someone has done it though.
Maybe someone will chime in on the ride quality.

Are your springs stock JDF?
straybullitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 07:17 AM   #19
Registered Member
Regular
 
SpeedMob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Your ride will be nominally stiffer feeling- not bad though- by cutting a half coil you're effectively raising the spring rate by about 7-10%
SpeedMob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 07:20 AM   #20
Registered Member
Regular
 
SpeedMob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Our shop did a fox body with 3/4 coil cut on cj pony part .5 lowering springs Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByMustang Evolution1396009189.253138.jpg
Views:	1713
Size:	741.8 KB
ID:	152122
SpeedMob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 11:46 AM   #21
Site Sponsor
Sponsor
 
AMWill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Malvern
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedMob View Post
Is it a progressive rate spring ? ( are all the coils equally spaced ?)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
If I cut let's say 3/4 of a coil off my lowering spring, how much more bouncy will my car be when I hit dips? Like on a scale from 1-10 how bouncy lol.
I'm personally not one of cutting springs. However, the SR springs are a standard rate, so they should react better than a progressive for cutting.

Taking 3/4 of a coil off of the SR springs will drop you pretty low. Considering the springs already bring you down 1.5" from stock. I'd highly suggest picking up a set of aftermarket struts/shocks ASAP. As the stock dampeners will be bouncy and bottom out every time you hit a pot-hole or an abrupt impact. Which will also make them start leaking eventually.

Hope this info helps! Let me know if I can be of any further assistance!

Shane
__________________
Will Levantovsky | AmericanMuscle.com
Toll Free: 866.727.1266
Bama Hotline: 888.226.9764 | M-F 9AM-5:30PM EST
WIN A $1500 MMD STYLING PACKAGE
Free Same-Day Shipping!
AMWill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 12:58 PM   #22
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by AMShaneLesky View Post
I'm personally not one of cutting springs. However, the SR springs are a standard rate, so they should react better than a progressive for cutting.



Taking 3/4 of a coil off of the SR springs will drop you pretty low. Considering the springs already bring you down 1.5" from stock. I'd highly suggest picking up a set of aftermarket struts/shocks ASAP. As the stock dampeners will be bouncy and bottom out every time you hit a pot-hole or an abrupt impact. Which will also make them start leaking eventually.



Hope this info helps! Let me know if I can be of any further assistance!



Shane

Maybe I should start off my taking 1/4 of a coil off. Do you think my factory shocks will last for a few months or are we talking a couple weeks?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:09 PM   #23
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mile high JDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Thronton
Region: Colorado
Posts: 5,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
I plan on going till there's only about 3/4-1inch of wheel gap, think I'll get a honda bounce or am I safe for a while?
I've got a lot less than 1" of wheel gap on my car and I have no.bouncing issies, but I've also got aftermarket shocks. My factory struts weren't top bad but I only had them on for a few months.





Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
Has anyone heard anything with the tein springs? They drop 2.5" in the front and 2.3" in the rear. And would the tein be better than cutting my own?

there used to be a guy on here with the Twin springs. It dropped his car pretty good. Yes they will be better than cutting the SRs. I believe they have a fairly decent spring rate.




Quote:
Originally Posted by straybullitt View Post
Are your springs stock JDF?
Yup the stock 03 Cobra springs.
__________________
Sold - Black 2000 Mustang GT, gone but definitely not forgotten
- Silver 2007 Corvette
Current - DHG 2001 Bullitt
Mile high JDF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:50 PM   #24
Registered Member
Regular
 
SpeedMob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 69
Tein is worth it and if you're there just replace struts with something decent - or go coil over - not QA1 if it's a street car though- rides on rails but feels like a dump truck
SpeedMob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:52 PM   #25
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
I'm looking into sr performance coilovers.
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:54 PM   #26
ME Bloodhound
Staff
 
Soccerluvr4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sacramento/Bay Area
Region: California
Posts: 14,672
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
I'm looking into sr performance coilovers.

Those are OK. What I'm doing, I'm gonna get KONI Yellows and the Maximum Motorsports has a kit to convert over to a coilover using those shocks and struts. You can pick the spring rate and everything.
__________________

Bullitt build paused pending graduation

HID end all thread
Soccerluvr4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:04 PM   #27
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccerluvr4 View Post
Those are OK. What I'm doing, I'm gonna get KONI Yellows and the Maximum Motorsports has a kit to convert over to a coilover using those shocks and struts. You can pick the spring rate and everything.

Can you hit me with a link?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:33 PM   #28
Site Sponsor
Sponsor
 
AMWill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Malvern
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
Maybe I should start off my taking 1/4 of a coil off. Do you think my factory shocks will last for a few months or are we talking a couple weeks?
It really depends on your driving style and how many pot-holes you hit. One good slam into a pot-hole can be enough to bottom out the dampeners and cause them to leak. I don't know if I'd go through the hassle of cutting a coil if you're only going to cut a 1/4 off. Either way you're on limited time with the factory struts/shocks.

Keep that in mind!

Shane
__________________
Will Levantovsky | AmericanMuscle.com
Toll Free: 866.727.1266
Bama Hotline: 888.226.9764 | M-F 9AM-5:30PM EST
WIN A $1500 MMD STYLING PACKAGE
Free Same-Day Shipping!
AMWill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:45 PM   #29
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by AMShaneLesky View Post
It really depends on your driving style and how many pot-holes you hit. One good slam into a pot-hole can be enough to bottom out the dampeners and cause them to leak. I don't know if I'd go through the hassle of cutting a coil if you're only going to cut a 1/4 off. Either way you're on limited time with the factory struts/shocks.



Keep that in mind!



Shane

Shane, I know Americanmuscle sells sr performance coilovers. Can you tell me if they are a good quality product for a daily driver like myself?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:54 PM   #30
ME Bloodhound
Staff
 
Soccerluvr4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sacramento/Bay Area
Region: California
Posts: 14,672
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
Can you hit me with a link?
All those high name coilover kits are, are this pretty much already assembled. Get some adjustable shocks and struts such as the KONIs and then you've got yourself a set up...

Coil-Over Kit with Springs, Koni Shocks, rear, 1979-04 Mustang non IRS

Mustang Coil-Over Kit with Springs, Front, Koni/Tokico/Strange/Lakewood Struts
__________________

Bullitt build paused pending graduation

HID end all thread
Soccerluvr4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 02:56 PM   #31
ME Bloodhound
Staff
 
Soccerluvr4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sacramento/Bay Area
Region: California
Posts: 14,672
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
Shane, I know Americanmuscle sells sr performance coilovers. Can you tell me if they are a good quality product for a daily driver like myself?
The SR ones are good if you are looking for just regular coilovers. They have 250lb springs all around and are adjustable for height, but not stiffness. So if you just want the look and a bit better handling then they are good..... If you want a car thats a track beast then go the route i'm going... I'll probably get around 350lb or so springs.
__________________

Bullitt build paused pending graduation

HID end all thread
Soccerluvr4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 03:03 PM   #32
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccerluvr4 View Post
The SR ones are good if you are looking for just regular coilovers. They have 250lb springs all around and are adjustable for height, but not stiffness. So if you just want the look and a bit better handling then they are good..... If you want a car thats a track beast then go the route i'm going... I'll probably get around 350lb or so springs.

All I'm really looking for is a coilover that I can daily drive, lower probably 3inchs, not make a bunch of noise and not be total garbage like the raceland stories I've heard lol.
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 03:08 PM   #33
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mile high JDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Thronton
Region: Colorado
Posts: 5,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
All I'm really looking for is a coilover that I can daily drive, lower probably 3inchs, not make a bunch of noise and not be total garbage like the raceland stories I've heard lol.
Then don't cheap out on coilovers by going with the SR ones... there's a reason they're so cheap. A 3" drop is going to be pretty brutal on your suspension.
__________________
Sold - Black 2000 Mustang GT, gone but definitely not forgotten
- Silver 2007 Corvette
Current - DHG 2001 Bullitt
Mile high JDF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 03:17 PM   #34
Registered Member
Regular
 
TheWitness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Louisville
Region: Kentucky
Posts: 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile high JDF View Post
Then don't cheap out on coilovers by going with the SR ones... there's a reason they're so cheap. A 3" drop is going to be pretty brutal on your suspension.

I was looking at some Bc racing ones, they look super nice. They're just under 1k, your thoughts?
TheWitness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 03:58 PM   #35
Registered Member
Regular
 
comporange's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: glen burnie
Region: Maryland
Posts: 880
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWitness View Post
Has anyone heard anything with the tein springs? They drop 2.5" in the front and 2.3" in the rear. And would the tein be better than cutting my own?

I just bought them yesterday Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByMustang Evolution1396040332.278091.jpg
Views:	130
Size:	205.7 KB
ID:	152154
comporange is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1996-2004 Mustang GT

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
cutting springs? BlackSix Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 17 11-24-2008 10:50 PM
cutting springs.. x99xstangxx Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 11 11-07-2007 08:03 AM
Cutting springs or Buying Springs Exit_In_Red Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 38 01-06-2005 01:13 AM
Cutting Your Springs megax29 Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 45 10-13-2004 05:36 PM
cutting C springs ???? Zim Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 8 06-24-2004 01:59 PM

» Like Us On Facebook



11:07 AM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.