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Old 04-10-2014, 09:59 AM   #1
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Torque arm bar worth it or not?

So I saw in AM that they have a torque arm bar for like 400 something. So I was just curious on what people think about these or if anyone has one installed and does it help for the money you pay ?

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I have one sitting in my room that I need to find time to put in so I'll let you know what I think of it...... But from all reviews it's one of the best things you can do to a solid axle car. Converts to a 3 link rear suspension set up so there is no binding and it makes your car just plant to the road through turns. Also your car will launch like a mother ****er
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Yep that's the one I was looking at getting. I need something because I'm running more boost and is your car lowered ? Did you change your rear control arms ? Let me know if you have to weld them to the sub frame connectors if you have them. At the same time let me know how it does on traction before I get mine and if I get mine before you install it I will do the same.

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what all needs to be changed to take advantage of the torque arm
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Don't you have to install a panhard bar with the torque arm since you're deleting the upper control arms?
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Don't you have to install a panhard bar with the torque arm since you're deleting the upper control arms?
As I was looking at the install kit you remove the upper shock/ arms when you install the ta. Then it tells you to remove the weight ( not sure of the technical term for it) on the bottom of the rear end. Then if you install the mm rear control arms with all that said and done you have removed like 40 something lbs according to the directions. You have to install a bar up near the trans mount.

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Are these the same as what used to be called "ladder bars"?
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As I was looking at the install kit you remove the upper shock/ arms when you install the ta. Then it tells you to remove the weight ( not sure of the technical term for it) on the bottom of the rear end. Then if you install the mm rear control arms with all that said and done you have removed like 40 something lbs according to the directions. You have to install a bar up near the trans mount.

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Hmm interesting. I always thought it needed the panhard bar to re center the axle
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The Torque Arm requires the installation of full length weld in subframe connectors and a Panhard Bar.
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I've heard a lot of great things about the MM torque arm kit! I can't say I've seen one installed before or have experienced it in person yet though. I'm interested in your guys feedback if one of you plan to give the torque arm a shot. Especially for an extreme power application!

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I've heard a lot of great things about the MM torque arm kit! I can't say I've seen one installed before or have experienced it in person yet though. I'm interested in your guys feedback if one of you plan to give the torque arm a shot. Especially for an extreme power application!

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Shane!!!! AM NEEDS a Panhard Bar for the 99-04!!! You can't install it without so people are going to have to go elsewhere then. I bought my TA from you guys but the PHB I had to get elsewhere.
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Are these the same as what used to be called "ladder bars"?
Kind of. They accomplish much the same thing, keeping the differential housing from rotating, only in a more sophisticated way on a 4 link suspension. Ladder bars are typically for a leaf spring suspension, and you probably remember the less effective "traction bars" as well...
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Hmm interesting. I always thought it needed the panhard bar to re center the axle
Look I'm the picture that was posted it might be that. I know you have to loose up the trans mount and stuff.

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Look I'm the picture that was posted it might be that. I know you have to loose up the trans mount and stuff.

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Isn't a that the bar with the hole in the middle ?

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I'm going to see if I can post the directions tom.



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You have to remove a crossmember up front so you can put in the Torque Arms mounting bracket up there which the actual bar receives into.
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The what is a panhard bar ?

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The part up top on the axle with the angled bar is the Panhard Bar, the huge brace on the axle is the Torque Arm, if you look up the Torque Arm you will see the brace I was talking about. Notice that the brace at the front of the Torque Arm is connecting to the Subframe connectors, that is why the Subframe connectors are required.... The Panhard Bar is required because you take off both of the upper control arms when installing the Torque Arm, so something has to keep the axle centered and you don't want the axle to go side to side because it can flex where its connected to the Subframe connectors and break something.
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Shane!!!! AM NEEDS a Panhard Bar for the 99-04!!! You can't install it without so people are going to have to go elsewhere then. I bought my TA from you guys but the PHB I had to get elsewhere.
Do you know what the rough measurement of the Panhard Bar is on this setup? I'm wondering how close it would be to an 05-14 adj Panhard Bar. It you could use one of those, that would be great. Although, the one you posted up looks a bit shorter.

I agree we need to offer something there!

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Do you know what the rough measurement of the Panhard Bar is on this setup? I'm wondering how close it would be to an 05-14 adj Panhard Bar. It you could use one of those, that would be great. Although, the one you posted up looks a bit shorter.

I agree we need to offer something there!

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Well guess I will have to wait on getting the ta until yall get a panhard bar. Unless someone else has it but rather order it from AM. Maybe yall go could get a vendor to start getting them from ?

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The part up top on the axle with the angled bar is the Panhard Bar, the huge brace on the axle is the Torque Arm, if you look up the Torque Arm you will see the brace I was talking about. Notice that the brace at the front of the Torque Arm is connecting to the Subframe connectors, that is why the Subframe connectors are required.... The Panhard Bar is required because you take off both of the upper control arms when installing the Torque Arm, so something has to keep the axle centered and you don't want the axle to go side to side because it can flex where its connected to the Subframe connectors and break something.
Thanks for the picture and explain it makes sense now guess I will have to wait on getting the ta until I find a panhard bar.

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Well guess I will have to wait on getting the ta until yall get a panhard bar. Unless someone else has it but rather order it from AM. Maybe yall go could get a vendor to start getting them from ?

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I'm confident we'll find a solution for the panhard bar rather quickly. Whenever we're missing a required component, we're always quick to act. The last thing we want to do is leave our customers hanging!

I'll post back as soon as I get word a on a resolution. Thanks for the excellent feedback everyone!

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Do you know what the rough measurement of the Panhard Bar is on this setup? I'm wondering how close it would be to an 05-14 adj Panhard Bar. It you could use one of those, that would be great. Although, the one you posted up looks a bit shorter.



I agree we need to offer something there!



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The thing is with 99-04 it's not just the straight bar, since the car doesn't come with one you need the entire thing.
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Thanks for the picture and explain it makes sense now guess I will have to wait on getting the ta until I find a panhard bar.

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I got most stuff from AM, but my Panhard Bar I got from Stangmods. All of the suspension is Maximum Motorsports so it shouldn't be too hard for AM to set up a deal with them.
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I'm confident we'll find a solution for the panhard bar rather quickly. Whenever we're missing a required component, we're always quick to act. The last thing we want to do is leave our customers hanging!

I'll post back as soon as I get word a on a resolution. Thanks for the excellent feedback everyone!

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Let me know what all I would need with the ta bar. Maybe get a good deal for bring it up that yall dont have a part that should go with a part yall carry.

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I got most stuff from AM, but my Panhard Bar I got from Stangmods. All of the suspension is Maximum Motorsports so it shouldn't be too hard for AM to set up a deal with them.
So in addition to the ta bar and panhard bar you need another piece ?

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Let me know what all I would need with the ta bar.

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So in addition to the ta bar and panhard bar you need another piece ?

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No, it's the Panhard Bar.... The actual thing is just that silver rod in one of my pictures. If you had a 05+ and got a new ones that is all you would get. But that other black piece is the mount for it since 05 and down doesn't have it. That's why the Panhard Bar is more expensive than 05+
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So I would need two things. The ta bar and the panhard bar for a 2000 ?

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So I would need two things. The ta bar and the panhard bar for a 2000 ?

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The Torque Arm requires weld in subframe connectors and the Panhard Bar before it can be installed. It is HIGHLY recommended to do the LCAs also.
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The Torque Arm requires weld in subframe connectors and the Panhard Bar before it can be installed. It is HIGHLY recommended to do the LCAs also.
Yeah I already got them installed and the LCA are coming soon. Guess I need to wait on AM to get the panhard bar

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The thing is with 99-04 it's not just the straight bar, since the car doesn't come with one you need the entire thing.
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You're right. I kept thinking the torque arm kit came with the panhard bar bracing. Not sure why, but thanks for clarifying for me. I've already added this to my New Product Suggestions list. I'm sure well be able to bring in the panhard bar assembly shortly.

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AM should do an install video of the torque arm bar on a 99-04 project car when they do get the panhard.
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AM should do an install video of the torque arm bar on a 99-04 project car when they do get the panhard.
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