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Old 05-27-2014, 02:41 PM   #1
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Best place to buy camshaft?

Grimace needs a new camshaft on the driver side of the block. I've been looking online but there are just way too many options. So. I'm asking the experts. Where should I look and what should I look for when buying a camshaft? I have no intentions on ever racing him, he's just for my own guilty pleasures. And I've learned from experience that cheaper is NEVER better. Any suggestions?
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Comp cams, you can get them from AM, late model restoration anywhere really

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Whoops! For some reason I thought you had an 05-10 3v GT! Forget what I said about the FRPP Hot Rod camshafts.
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Grimace needs a new camshaft on the driver side of the block. I've been looking online but there are just way too many options. So. I'm asking the experts. Where should I look and what should I look for when buying a camshaft? I have no intentions on ever racing him, he's just for my own guilty pleasures. And I've learned from experience that cheaper is NEVER better. Any suggestions?
Since you're already buying a camshaft one way or another, are you looking for a characteristic changes to your Mustang's engine? Such as a high power band, or more radical idle, or more mid-ranged torque, etc?

I see you're not racing the car, so I don't imagine you want to replace the valve springs or any other extra components that are required for more radical camshafts. With that in mind, I highly recommend the Ford Racing Hot Rod Camshafts. They give you a little bit of everything, but a tame enough to run with the stock valve springs and what not. The FRPP Hot Rod Cams also have a more aggressive idle than the stock camshafts!

If there's any of information you're looking for or have questions on, please let me know. I'm here to help!

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You can't just buy one camshaft... Not sure if you are not familiar with OHV engines or I missed something. If you are looking to upgrade from the PI cams (if you are a 99-04) then I'd recommend Cushman.
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Never said I was buying just one, I just simply stated the driver side needed to be replaced. It has a lot of flat spots and is causing the lifters (that I JUST replaced) to miss and skip I guess. I took it to Ford today and they showed me what was up. I'm replacing both, don't worry. I was just asking about which ones would be best. And where to get them. Because I certainly don't want to waste $1000 to just turn around with a blown engine.

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You can't just buy one camshaft... Not sure if you are not familiar with OHV engines or I missed something. If you are looking to upgrade from the PI cams (if you are a 99-04) then I'd recommend Cushman.
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Yeah, no intentions on racing. He's a daily driver.
As far as future upgrades, I haven't really put too much thought into it other than replacing the CAI that's in it already. It's one of those where the filter is on the bottom near the wheel so, driving on rainy days is a little iffy. I've got a short throw shifter I'm about to throw in it next weekend, not sure if that really matters or not. I wouldn't think so. I'm still in learning mode, so I don't know what has which affects on what parts and whatnot. I'm doing all the upgrades myself, so common sense tells me the smaller things are first. such as CAI, exhaust, injectors, wiring, and plugs for the starts. I plan on upgrading my injectors to at least 21lbs instead of the stock 19s. I've already got an aftermarket throttle, stage 2 clutch, bbk CAI (which I'm replacing), flowmaster (which I'm replacing with the newer cat back flowmasters). Other than that, I don't really have much mroe intentions other than decking him out in purple all throughout the hood. Which, affects absolutely nothing that we're talking about lol.

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Since you're already buying a camshaft one way or another, are you looking for a characteristic changes to your Mustang's engine? Such as a high power band, or more radical idle, or more mid-ranged torque, etc?

I see you're not racing the car, so I don't imagine you want to replace the valve springs or any other extra components that are required for more radical camshafts. With that in mind, I highly recommend the Ford Racing Hot Rod Camshafts. They give you a little bit of everything, but a tame enough to run with the stock valve springs and what not. The FRPP Hot Rod Cams also have a more aggressive idle than the stock camshafts!

If there's any of information you're looking for or have questions on, please let me know. I'm here to help!

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Lol I guess I missed that.

Well, just keep in mind that with a set of aftermarket cams you are going to need a good dyno tune which is going to run another $600-$800 but if you get a good set you'll pick up 30rwhp with all the other "bolt ons" being already done. Like I said I'd go with Cushman.
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Yeah, no intentions on racing. He's a daily driver.
As far as future upgrades, I haven't really put too much thought into it other than replacing the CAI that's in it already. It's one of those where the filter is on the bottom near the wheel so, driving on rainy days is a little iffy. I've got a short throw shifter I'm about to throw in it next weekend, not sure if that really matters or not. I wouldn't think so. I'm still in learning mode, so I don't know what has which affects on what parts and whatnot. I'm doing all the upgrades myself, so common sense tells me the smaller things are first. such as CAI, exhaust, injectors, wiring, and plugs for the starts. I plan on upgrading my injectors to at least 21lbs instead of the stock 19s. I've already got an aftermarket throttle, stage 2 clutch, bbk CAI (which I'm replacing), flowmaster (which I'm replacing with the newer cat back flowmasters). Other than that, I don't really have much mroe intentions other than decking him out in purple all throughout the hood. Which, affects absolutely nothing that we're talking about lol.
Whoops! For some reason I thought you had an 05-10 3v GT. Forget what I said about the FRPP Hot Rod Camshafts, as they're not designed for your 96-04 GT.

If you want to keep your car with basic bolt-ons than, I'd go with a mild set of camshafts. You won't need a dyno tune with mild profile camshafts and you'll retain good drive-ability manners. I suggest something simple like the Comp Cams Stage1 Xtreme Energy XE262AH camshafts. They'll suit you well with no issues!

Secondly, I see you have a few other upgrades in the plans which is great. Although with these Stage1 cams,the extra upgrades aren't required, but will still benefit your engine. Upgraded fuel injectors won't be necessary until you're producing almost 300rwhp. Even with full bolt-on mods, you won't need to upgrade the injectors. I'd keep that in mind, so you don't spend any unnecessary money at the moment.

If you need more help with finding the right setup, just let me know!

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You can't just buy one camshaft... Not sure if you are not familiar with OHV engines or I missed something. If you are looking to upgrade from the PI cams (if you are a 99-04) then I'd recommend Cushman.
MMR sells brand new factory "Take-out" PI cams for $70. for the set.
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MMR sells brand new factory "Take-out" PI cams for $70. for the set.
For just a straight up camshaft replacement with nothing else needed besides new gaskets this would be the best route.
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Actually, your car is a 96 isn't it Grimace? Non PI?
For what you want to do with the car, I'd just do the PI swap (heads, cams, intake) and call it good.
You'll get a noticeable boost in power and have a nice reliable car.
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Well that makes sense seeing as the username has a 96 lol. Honestly PI cams and a PI intake on NPI heads would be a nice upgrade too. The NPI heads have been proven to actually be decent heads, its the cams and the intake that are where most of the power is locked up.
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Yeah, the nice thing about the updated heads is the spark plug hole threads.

The heads are about $900 for the complete pair and then whatever the manifold costs, Grimace...
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Gah! You guys are way more helpful than Google lol. One question though. I'm still new remember, idk what PI means lol
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I think it's Performance Improved or Power Improved... something like that. Lol
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Power Improved heads. From 96-98 one of the biggest complaints with the Mustang GT is that it was just a turd compared to the pushrod. Ford introduced redesigned heads/intake and camshafts in 1999 to bump horsepower up from 215 to 260. Mostly it was the cams and intake. If you put the heads on a flow bench the NPI heads actually flow more CFM but the design of the PI heads allows for a bit more power.

The nice thing about swapping to the PI stuff on a NPI shortblock is that you get a pretty good compression bump up to 10.5:1 which means that, all other things being equal, a PI swapped 96-98 car makes more power than a 99-04.
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All these acronyms........

You gotta spell these things out lol.

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Power Improved heads. From 96-98 one of the biggest complaints with the Mustang GT is that it was just a turd compared to the pushrod. Ford introduced redesigned heads/intake and camshafts in 1999 to bump horsepower up from 215 to 260. Mostly it was the cams and intake. If you put the heads on a flow bench the NPI heads actually flow more CFM but the design of the PI heads allows for a bit more power.

The nice thing about swapping to the PI stuff on a NPI shortblock is that you get a pretty good compression bump up to 10.5:1 which means that, all other things being equal, a PI swapped 96-98 car makes more power than a 99-04.
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All these acronyms........

You gotta spell these things out lol.
Lol I'm military, you should see some of the acronyms we have. When I was flying I'd usually have to reset the VIP and the TCAS computer before we fired up the APU and aligned the IRUs and that was just normal ops.
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My boyfriend is in the Air Force and my ex husband was in the army so I've been confused for many years lol

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Lol I'm military, you should see some of the acronyms we have. When I was flying I'd usually have to reset the VIP and the TCAS computer before we fired up the APU and aligned the IRUs and that was just normal ops.
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My ex and I were discussing my car this morning (mustangs are the only conversations we can have without wanting to punch each other in the face). He said my car already has PI upgrades. How do I determine what these upgrades are? What do I look at and for and where?


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Actually, your car is a 96 isn't it Grimace? Non PI?

For what you want to do with the car, I'd just do the PI swap (heads, cams, intake) and call it good.

You'll get a noticeable boost in power and have a nice reliable car.
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Unsure about the heads from the exterior, cams you could not tell unless you knew but the intake you can tell by just visually looking at it. Look up pics of the PI vs NPI intake and then just go gander at it.
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He said something about the PI will connect to number 5 and the NPI will connect to number 1. Well, which one is 1 and which one is 5? Lol
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It probably has a PI intake swap, that is common for the NPI cars. They just look physically different from up top. I know what he is talking about, just having a mind fart...
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