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Old 06-12-2014, 11:51 PM   #1
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Transmission tilted Please HELP

I have recently reinstalled my engine and transmission as one piece.
I just noticed that the transmission seems to tilt towards the drivers side.
As if it will cause the shifter to tilt a little sideways towards the drivers side.
I have installed brand new motor mounts so i doubt that its because of a bad mount.
Unless i installed them wrong? But dont they only go on one way ?
Any opinions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I will upload pics as soon as i can if needed.
Feel free to ask any question as im sure i have not explained it well enough i wrote this kind of in a rush.
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All the transmissions in my sn95 cars bias strongly towards the driver. My Mach 1 in 5th is easily left of Centre. If the motor mounts are good and the trans crossmember is solid, it should be fine. Unless I've misunderstood what you're saying.
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I will post pictures right now so you can give me your opinion. Please excuse the bad quality as i had to use flash.
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All the transmissions in my sn95 cars bias strongly towards the driver. My Mach 1 in 5th is easily left of Centre. If the motor mounts are good and the trans crossmember is solid, it should be fine. Unless I've misunderstood what you're saying.
It just seems really offset to me but I cannot remember what it looked like before i pulled the engine and tranny so I could just be stressing over nothing..
I just put a lot of time and money in this rebuild and i would hate to put it all back together with something wrong.
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Sorry i uploaded a video at first. Im a newbie to these forums, just now figured out how to upload images

IMO that looks normal. Mine leans to the left also.
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No, that is not normal. Its actually rotated to the left. Only thing that will cause that is your motor mount is messed up or your K member is messed up or something. OR one of the mounts isn't sitting down all the way on the K member.
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Yours leans a little more than mine, but mine definitely leans also.
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Hey guys quick update I checked the position of the motor mounts on the k member they were slightly off so I readjusted and got them evenly fitted on the k member. It helped a little but the transmission still appears to be tilted. The motor mounts are brand new. So I decided to drop the transmission crossmember and examine the transmission mount and it has very very small tear in the rubber, so small I wanna say I doubt that's the problem. But I don't mind changing it out , only problem is that I cannot find a correct transmission mount ANYWHERE. it's a 1998 mustang gt 2v 4.6 with a t-45 manual transmission. Autozone and oreilleys say that they only carry automatic mounts. Ebay also.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:38 PM   #11
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Even rockauto only has them in the automatic section
Rockauto is really good with parts too that's where I got my clutch set
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However I can tell you if its tilted its not your transmount. The trans mount only keeps it from moving up and down first and left/right second not on any sort of rotational basis. The shifter mount should be level. Is your engine tilted at all? I mean that would be the easy way to tell.
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What year is your car?
They have them for 99's which is still a t45 I think?
If not , try Maximum Motorsports or possibly American Muscle miight have some urethane mounts.
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Well my engine looks perfect sits just like it did when I pulled it out. Motor mounts are both places in the same position on the k member. I will go take pics right now just so you guys can have a look. I may be stressing over nothing.
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It's a 1998. I have read that somewhere in 1999 they switched the crossmember and mount to cobra style which sets further back causing them not to be compatible with our 96-98. I could be wrong that's just what I read somewhere
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What year is your car?
They have them for 99's w which is still a t45 I think?
If not , try Maximum Motorsports or possibly American Muscle miight have some urethane mounts.
He already said its a 98, our years use wonky mounts but apparently you can use a 79-95 style rubber mount or a urethane one and it'll work. I dunno, I swapped to a 3650 and had to install a tubular adjustable crossmember and I use the 79-95 style now.

I will say from multiple experiences with the poly mounts, I would not run a poly trans mount in a car that sees a lot of street time. Vibration issues and the bolts don't quite line up in the crossmember slots so you have to open them up a little to get the supplied bolts in. I prefer poly engine mounts and a brand new OEM rubber trans mount for my cars but that's me. I will also say to keep away from anything prothane as far as motor mounts go. Prothane raises the engine up a little higher than stock and can throw off your driveline angle.

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It's a 1998. I have read that somewhere in 1999 they switched the crossmember and mount to cobra style which sets further back causing them not to be compatible with our 96-98. I could be wrong that's just what I read somewhere
No, they went to a completely different style of crossmember in 99. Its a flat stamped piece that bolts into the unibody vs the kind we have that uses two hinge mounts.
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No. You're probably right. Scotty will know.

Let me ask you this, would you rather have the shifter tilted slightly towards you, or away from you?
Just make sure the motor mounts are sitting correctly and put it back together.
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I'm uploading pictures right now so you guys can take a look for me. After comparing the pictures now to the ones before I adjusted the motor mounts it does look better. Just want to be sure before I put it all back together. I just worry about it causing other problems, I've put a lot of time and money in getting this baby back up and running. I would hate for something little to cause another problem quickly.
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Let me know if you guys need better pictures or a different angle to make a better opinion I have no problem taking more. And just wanna say THANK YOU times a million for all the responses! Greatly appreciated.
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With the motor mounts on our cars, there is a small stud on each mount. You can actually bolt the mounts up with that stud being caught on the edge of where it slides into the mounting point and the mount won't be quite flush on the K member. I had this happen to me with my 95 when I was doing the grounding straps and I had to get another person to yank on the top of the motor while I raised and lowered it till it went in. Just something to be aware of and look for potentially.

The the thing is... you say you adjusted the mounts. There really isn't any adjustment they either bolt up or they don't. You have the 2 bolts that go into the block and then the mount sits in the K member and you tighten up the nut. So not sure what is going on with this. Who knows, maybe the pics are making it look all squirrely.

A real easy way to see if its tilted too much is to just undo the nuts on the crossmember mount studs and put a jack under the tailshaft and raise it up. If the studs are smooth and don't catch on the crossmember slots at all when it goes up/down and look like they are at 90 degrees to the crossmember I'd just bolt it up and go.
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I can't see from the flash quite for sure but I don't see any of the small studs I'm talking about in the K member holes.



Do yours look like this on the bottom? Do you see the studs that go into the other holes that don't look filled on yours?

Also some of the poly mounts are setup for Fox when they come in the packaging. You have to set them up for 94-up when you remove them from the package by unbolting the two metal pieces and turning the rubber/poly piece around and then bolting it back up. Were yours like this or did you check or anything? I had to change mine as I just described for my 95 Cobra when I did the mounts on that car as they came setup for a fox.
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Sorry about that, what I meant by adjusting the mounts was that, they were sitting uneven one being further down than the other so I hooked the engine back up to the cherry picker and lifted it up while someone else was moving the engine around until they fell into place evenly. The motor mounts I put on were stock rubber ones. No poly or urethane. Would that matter then ? Because I didn't check anything like that or flip any parts of it. I'm gonna slide under there and check the studs you are talking about right now.
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Its that one nub that is right next to the big stud. You can see it right in the pic I posted. That needs to be in the hole below the slot the stud goes into.
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It looks like the drivers side mount isn't seated.
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See how one does look more seated than the other. Should I just wiggle around till they look better ?
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Left/1st picture is the drivers side
Right/2nd picture is the passenger side
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Take some of the weight off with the engine hoist and wiggle away...
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Should I take off the transmission crossmember or is it okay to leave on as I wiggle?
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You might loosen it up but leave it fastened.
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Ok will do. I'm gonna eat then give it a try I will keep you guys updated thank you. 🍻🍻🍻🍻
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Ok so I tried wiggling it in every possible way I could. It almost seems like the driver side of the engine needs to be pushed back just a tiny bit for that stud to be in the perfect spot , but for the life of me I cannot get the engine to slide back any farther. Does it matter if my driveline is installed already ? I mean it slides in and out anyways right ?

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Your right. It should slide.
Something is holding it up, though. You just need to figure out what it is.
Are you doing this alone or do you have help?
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Been alone for today. Should I try lifting the rear of the car so the drive line can spin and move.
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