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Old 07-10-2014, 08:38 PM   #1
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Bama Tune suddenly pinging after a year

So my 93 race tune started to develop a very noticeable ping if given anymore than 1/2 throttle, switched to the 87 street tune, still pings, returned to stock, ping gone! I've been running my 93 race tune for about a year now with no problems and now suddenly develops a ping, seems odd to me...anyone ever hear of this happening? Reasons causing it? I mean it wouldn't make sense for the tune to be off as it ran fine for a solid year right?..its been doing this for about a week, and have gotten gas from multiple places thinking it could possibly be a fuel issue, but highly doubt it at this point...any ideas guys? Thanks!

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Hmm what is your spark plug gap looking like?
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So my 93 race tune started to develop a very noticeable ping if given anymore than 1/2 throttle, switched to the 87 street tune, still pings, returned to stock, ping gone! I've been running my 93 race tune for about a year now with no problems and now suddenly develops a ping, seems odd to me...anyone ever hear of this happening? Reasons causing it? I mean it wouldn't make sense for the tune to be off as it ran fine for a solid year right?..its been doing this for about a week, and have gotten gas from multiple places thinking it could possibly be a fuel issue, but highly doubt it at this point...any ideas guys? Thanks!

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That's definitely on the interesting side-Have you had any other issues pop up recently? Added any new mods? When's the last time you had your plugs changed?

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Having the same problem. currently working with bama on less aggressive timing, Did not notice the ping till after the summer gas formula was released. But just cause I didn't notice doesn't mean it didn't start earlier.
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Hmmm.
Bullitt1075 had this same problem as well.
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Hmmm, I've never swapped the plugs myself, purchased the car at 100k, I am now at 130k, was told the plugs were swapped as part of the tune up before it was put up for sale, but now I'm a bit worried I'm still running the stock plugs, don't wanna risk having frozen plugs and snapping them, but would worn plugs cause the car to ping when tuned and drive normal when on stock tune?

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Refilled with another tank of 93, and its pinging like crazy on the race tune...again returning to stock its driving normal, not sure went wrong with the tunes but looks like I'll be ditching them for now...

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No idea lol, is there a way to check through the SCT tuner?
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Hmmm.
Bullitt1075 had this same problem as well.
Any idea if he every resolved the issue?

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No idea lol, is there a way to check through the SCT tuner?
No, you should NEVER run any tune without a wideband but too many ppl do. Otherwise how do you know the dude who is writing your "tune" at Bama and yours is the 20th he's done that day doesn't fat finger something?
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Going to change the oil and clean the CIA tomorrow. I'm also running 93 on a 91 race tune, and all my tunes still ping.
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Any idea if he every resolved the issue?

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He went into the tune and took out some of the timing. I don't know if he ever got the tune fixed by Bama or not, though.
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He went into the tune and took out some of the timing. I don't know if he ever got the tune fixed by Bama or not, though.
I just find it so odd for the tune to randomly start pinging
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I just find it so odd for the tune to randomly start pinging
Yes. And his car is VERY low mileage. Something has, apparently, changed with your car and not the tune... I don't think they can re-write themselves... YET!
They tune the car to have less "cushion" between pinging and not pinging. Something has made you guys engines too close to that limit with the tune installed.
We just need to figure out what that is.
How long has it been since you guys, that are experiencing this, have changed your fuel filter?
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Yes. And his car is VERY low mileage. Something has, apparently, changed with your car and not the tune... I don't think they can re-write themselves... YET!
They tune the car to have less "cushion" between pinging and not pinging. Something has made you guys engines too close to that limit with the tune installed.
We just need to figure out what that is.
How long has it been since you guys, that are experiencing this, have changed your fuel filter?
Fuel filter changed less than 20k miles ago

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Its probably time to do it again.
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Refilled with another tank of 93, and its pinging like crazy on the race tune...again returning to stock its driving normal, not sure went wrong with the tunes but looks like I'll be ditching them for now...

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Going to change the oil and clean the CIA tomorrow. I'm also running 93 on a 91 race tune, and all my tunes still ping.
Gentlemen-I wanted to ask id you could both shoot us a call so we can get some datalogs set up and pick your brains on this-This definitely isn't right and I'd like to get you guys fixed up as soon as humanly possible. We're already on site and we're a phone call away at 888.226.9764, please shoot us a call so we can get working on this for you!

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Gentlemen-I wanted to ask id you could both shoot us a call so we can get some datalogs set up and pick your brains on this-This definitely isn't right and I'd like to get you guys fixed up as soon as humanly possible. We're already on site and we're a phone call away at 888.226.9764, please shoot us a call so we can get working on this for you!

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Just talked to Bama or AM, Not sure. There going to send me out another tune subtracting 3 degrees timing. If any one else call's, the'll want to know the rpm range where the pinging start's and ends. mines an automatic so it only pings at a lower rpm in overdrive till it drops back into drive.
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Gotta love the guesswork tunes... I'm sorry man this is why I'll never buy a canned copypasta tune.
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Just talked to Bama or AM, Not sure. There going to send me out another tune subtracting 3 degrees timing. If any one else call's, the'll want to know the rpm range where the pinging start's and ends. mines an automatic so it only pings at a lower rpm in overdrive till it drops back into drive.
Mine seems to ping pretty much throughout the rpm band, just only if I go a little more than 1/2 throttle...let me know how it works out for you, I returned to stock, and car is driving fine, so for the time being I said screw the bama tunes, if it works out for ya I'll end up giving them a call at some point.
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Just talked to Bama or AM, Not sure. There going to send me out another tune subtracting 3 degrees timing. If any one else call's, the'll want to know the rpm range where the pinging start's and ends. mines an automatic so it only pings at a lower rpm in overdrive till it drops back into drive.
Dave thanks for letting us know! I'm confident they're going to get this fixed up. Please let us know how it's working out when you get the new tune.

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Mine seems to ping pretty much throughout the rpm band, just only if I go a little more than 1/2 throttle...let me know how it works out for you, I returned to stock, and car is driving fine, so for the time being I said screw the bama tunes, if it works out for ya I'll end up giving them a call at some point.
We would definitely like to get a look at this and have this sorted if you would shoot us a call. We're here around the clock and are here to help! If there's something I can do on my end to help don't hesitate to let me know or shoot me a PM.

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Dave thanks for letting us know! I'm confident they're going to get this fixed up. Please let us know how it's working out when you get the new tune.



We would definitely like to get a look at this and have this sorted if you would shoot us a call. We're here around the clock and are here to help! If there's something I can do on my end to help don't hesitate to let me know or shoot me a PM.

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Thanks Alex, its just odd to me that it ran great on the tune for a year, and now suddenly runs like crap on it, has me thinking that something had to change on the car and not with the tune, like I said it runs fine stock, Ive been so busy lately with work I haven't had much time to really investigate it.

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Thanks Alex, its just odd to me that it ran great on the tune for a year, and now suddenly runs like crap on it, has me thinking that something had to change on the car and not with the tune, like I said it runs fine stock, Ive been so busy lately with work I haven't had much time to really investigate it.

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I agree with you! I'm not sure what could be causing the hiccup but we would definitely like to get a look at what you're working with time permitting! Keep me in the loop or shoot Bama a call directly at 888.226.9764 and we're here to help.

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This is why I always wonder at ppl who don't run widebands and fuel pressure gauges if they've messed with the stock tune at all. Instead of sending the tune back for someone to just randomly change things and hope something works you could know what is going on for realz and deal with it accordingly.
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Okay so now I have a question, if I back up the timing -2 in the global spark, and the pinging stops, what the hell could that mean? Because like I said ran fine on the tune for a year, suddenly pings, and if taking some timing off fixes it, I just don't get what would cause the timing to suddenly be off after a year of it running great... could it possibly be just the motor getting older/more mileage?

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You sure you don't have something as simple as a tank of bad gas? Wouldn't be the first time some jackass put 87 octane in all the tanks and charged for 89/93.
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You sure you don't have something as simple as a tank of bad gas? Wouldn't be the first time some jackass put 87 octane in all the tanks and charged for 89/93.
I stare at them like a damn hawk when they fill up my tank, I make damn sure thy hit that 93 button lol

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You're not understanding what I am saying. Very often gas stations will get busted for ONLY having 87 octane in all THEIR tanks regardless of what button is pushed. This is why when I buy premium I only get it from a few stations because I don't trust shady station owners putting 87 in everything. Last time a listing came out at work for these gas stations there were like 10 of them in the local area that were doing it.

For now, go back to the stock tune and then go to a different service station and fill up with 93. If it still does it then it might be the tune. You'd have more info if you had a fuel pressure gauge and a wideband tho...
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Could a fuel pump going bad losing pressure cause this?

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You're not understanding what I am saying. Very often gas stations will get busted for ONLY having 87 octane in all THEIR tanks regardless of what button is pushed. This is why when I buy premium I only get it from a few stations because I don't trust shady station owners putting 87 in everything. Last time a listing came out at work for these gas stations there were like 10 of them in the local area that were doing it.

For now, go back to the stock tune and then go to a different service station and fill up with 93. If it still does it then it might be the tune. You'd have more info if you had a fuel pressure gauge and a wideband tho...
Ohhh okay yes I get what you are saying, but that wouldn't explain why it also pings on the 87 street tune, all tunes now ping, stock does not...come to think of it, I did get my tuner at the very end of last summer, so I wasnt running the tunes in the extreme 90F+ plus weather, could the hot weather be a factor for it causing to ping? Yes well maybe now I'll look into a fuel pressure gauge and wideband, anything you recommend?

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Are you running 93 with your 87 tune. I have to do this during the summer months because of the summer mix we get around here

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I have not, hmm maybe I'll try that today...but honestly I've never ran the street tune much as i really didn't notice much of a difference between that and stock

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