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Old 07-21-2014, 03:29 PM   #1
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I understand that everyone says not to expect any sort of major gains, and it would be cheaper in most cases to get a new car. But that is no fun. I have been thinking about doing some sort of power adding to my 03 gt in the future, wether it be FI, or NOS. Any thoughts on the best route? I also have a GT28R turbo laying around from an old project so if that is usable on this big of a motor that could save me some money. Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated
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Well you just got your right to run nitrous revoked for calling it "nos"

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Well you just got your right to run nitrous revoked for calling it "nos"
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Sorry, nitrous* any thoughts?
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All depends on your goal, and power level

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Ignore that second one, it was accidental. It is still a daily driver and I really don't want to blow the motor
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Basic Vortech S trim kit, tune to 400whp, go. As long as you keep your foot out of it, you will retain stock street manners, stock mileage and it'll hold up just fine.

Just make sure you have the suspension and chassis mods to actually use that power.
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Basic Vortech S trim kit, tune to 400whp, go. As long as you keep your foot out of it, you will retain stock street manners, stock mileage and it'll hold up just fine.

Just make sure you have the suspension and chassis mods to actually use that power.

Is that reliable and could be used for a dd?


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Basic Vortech S trim kit, tune to 400whp, go. As long as you keep your foot out of it, you will retain stock street manners, stock mileage and it'll hold up just fine.

Just make sure you have the suspension and chassis mods to actually use that power.

Have you done this before, and these were the results?
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Well you just got your right to run nitrous revoked for calling it "nos"

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My goal is to get above 300 at the wheels, preferably high 300s but it would choose a more reliable setup over that if it had to be one or the other
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I would presume nitrous would be the safest way, but your not going to have that power 100% of the time.


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Any power adder is safe and reliable provided it is installed properly and the tune is spot on. A S trim set to the high 300/low 400 to the wheels on a really good tune should last a long time. However, if the car is 100% DD and having it go down is going to be very bad for the owner they might want to think twice about it.
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Any power adder is safe and reliable provided it is installed properly and the tune is spot on. A S trim set to the high 300/low 400 to the wheels on a really good tune should last a long time. However, if the car is 100% DD and having it go down is going to be very bad for the owner they might want to think twice about it.

My gt is only weekends and nice days but I want to not to harm engine and start every time


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Then a supercharger is fine, just be aware of what it is going to cost. The Vortech Kit new comes with everything including the fuel stuff but you still need to make sure the rest of your car can handle the power as in it has suspension mods, subframes, trans shifts well and a good idea to upgrade your clutch if you are manual. Also factor in $600 or so for a custom dyno tune. The tune Vortech sends is pretty much just so you can drive the car to the tuner, once a good tuner gets ahold of it and dials it in it should be great.

Also look into the Kenne Bell kits and then there is the Tork Tech but the Tork Tech kit is more for ppl who DIY themselves IMO.
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I understand that you prefer the blower, but what is your opinion on nitrous, and turbos on this car Scotty?
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I would presume nitrous would be the safest way, but your not going to have that power 100% of the time.


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Your not going to have any FI power 100% of the time.
People fail to realize nitrous, blower, turbo all the same thing.

Only time you will have power from a turbo/ blower is while in boost. As nitrous while your spraying. So........ your comment is a little invalid

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Your not going to have any FI power 100% of the time.
People fail to realize nitrous, blower, turbo all the same thing.

Only time you will have power from a turbo/ blower is while in boost. As nitrous while your spraying. So........ your comment is a little invalid

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Sc is diff though, correct? I am here to learn.


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Still have to be in boost for it to make power.

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Your not going to have any FI power 100% of the time.
People fail to realize nitrous, blower, turbo all the same thing.

Only time you will have power from a turbo/ blower is while in boost. As nitrous while your spraying. So........ your comment is a little invalid

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The reason why people say That is because you can't run out of boost and have to refill like with N2O. Very few people have a N20 setup and have it hooked up 24/7 on a strip/street car and refill the bottle more then their gas tank. They generally use it for a spirited run here and there or just at the track. Where at with FI it never runs out and is always available.

But it's a trade off as FI is a lot more the a N20 setup so it's all in what you want.


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The reason why people say That is because you can't run out of boost and have to refill like with N2O. Very few people have a N20 setup and have it hooked up 24/7 on a strip/street car and refill the bottle more then their gas tank. They generally use it for a spirited run here and there or just at the track. Where at with FI it never runs out and is always available.

But it's a trade off as FI is a lot more the a N20 setup so it's all in what you want.


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The reason why people say That is because you can't run out of boost and have to refill like with N2O. Very few people have a N20 setup and have it hooked up 24/7 on a strip/street car and refill the bottle more then their gas tank. They generally use it for a spirited run here and there or just at the track. Where at with FI it never runs out and is always available.

But it's a trade off as FI is a lot more the a N20 setup so it's all in what you want.


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And now my Built motor nitrous 2012 5.0

Nitrous car will always win, back to back runs, turbos and blower will suffer from heat soak run after run.


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How much does a high quality n20 kit cost?
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It's not just the kit you have to worry about. Fuel system, tune, extra electronics and the tune.

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It's not just the kit you have to worry about. Fuel system, tune, extra electronics and the tune.

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Hehe.

You said "tune" twice...
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Hehe.

You said "tune" twice...
Tune is key.

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Basic Vortech S trim kit, tune to 400whp, go. As long as you keep your foot out of it, you will retain stock street manners, stock mileage and it'll hold up just fine.

Just make sure you have the suspension and chassis mods to actually use that power.

I believe this may not always the case. Got example my 05 Gt got an average 23-26 mpg on a trip. That being said my 07 s/c Gt was lucky to crack 20 with cruise control set at 65-70mph. Just a guess but it could be the larger injector size.


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I get FI, and know what a car needs for it to work, but I am really new to nitrous. What are all the components, like what do you need to make it work? Sorry, I'm noob
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Nitrous will give you more torque than a supercharger. I'm spraying a hundred and my torque went from 280 to 430


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I believe this may not always the case. Got example my 05 Gt got an average 23-26 mpg on a trip. That being said my 07 s/c Gt was lucky to crack 20 with cruise control set at 65-70mph. Just a guess but it could be the larger injector size.


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It's really hard to compare 2 different cars like that. Did they have the same transmissions, gears, rim size, weight, etc. all that factors into fuel economy. Did you happen to have the numbers from the 07 before the s/c was installed?


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