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Old 08-21-2014, 05:50 PM   #1
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i thought i had this figured out

okay guys, so ive been goign a little crazy with the plasti dip lately and i thought i figure it out but now im having second thoughts on that...

the first thing i dipped were my rims. it came out great, smooth finish.

then i did my hood. came out pretty smooth.
then i did my hood 2.0 and it was a MUCH larger surface before and it came out looking super rough, almost as if it rubs off with a light brush, and kind splotchy and you can kind of soo the gloss shine still
then i did the section between my exhaust tips and it came out looking REALLY smooth.
right after i did that i did my spoiler and its starting to come out just like my hood. except it definitely rubs off easily.

what am i doing wrong? am i not leaving enough time to dry, or do i just need a lot more coats? or maybe thicker coats? i dont make a lot of progress with each coat...
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Did you clean the surface good before applying? I clean with rubbing alcohol before I spray it.


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yeah i usually use carwash soap and water but i just did water today. but both surfaces were cleaned the same with different results...
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If you clay bar the already painted parts first and wash, then you should have no issues. The clay bar gets all the elelments and unseen grim or dirt that would intefer with cohesion.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:06 PM   #5
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so thats why its so rough looking? it wasnt clean enough?
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This is a what I mean... This is my spoiler and you can See it go from smooth to... Furry..
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Tell you what, go and purchase a claybar kit. Use it as it is intended to be used, then spray your plasti-dip. And then tell me if it is different. I have seen the differrence for myself. Another thing you can look at is, is your tip clean on your spray can or gun? A dirty tip or clogged tip can cause an uneven like spray and give a rough/smooth spray.
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That's something I try to check regularly. Where's a good place to pick one up?
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Any auto store that sells car wash items or polish items has the claybar kits. They are cheap kits, I always have a claybar laying around for when I feel rough areas on my cars paint, then I use the claybar and good as new again.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:54 PM   #10
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yeah i usually use carwash soap and water but i just did water today. but both surfaces were cleaned the same with different results...
Yeah I wouldn't call that good prep work at all. Depending on the soap you may be okay but just wiping with water? C'mon

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Walmart has meguiars clay bar kit for $20


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Lemme ask you this are you using the plasti dip cans until they are empty? I've found out that using the cans until there almost out of paint they like to sputter and kinda spit little tiny droplets every where and make it very rough finish and not smooth, sorta how yours looks from the pictures


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I just did my wheels and yes I found that once they reached a certain level they tend to splatter more.


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We did my boys and it came out really good. The texture wasn't super rough but not smooth. Everybody I know that's done it comes out like this. Done with the plasti dip rattle can.

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You're not cleaning properly before applying, and it looks like you are just spraying it on and not misting. Mist it all over, then wait a minute, then repeat. It will not be filled in there will be spots not dipped. Repeat this process about 10-20 times until everything is filled in, then do another coat or 2. You will have a perfectly smooth dipped surface, and it will look professional grade.

Source: Lots of experience plastidipping, people ask me if it's matte paint or wrapped all the time
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:19 AM   #16
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Is it easier with the spray gun they sell?

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I would say yes, never used it though. All my plastidip work comes out professional-grade on my car with the rattle cans though


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Old 08-22-2014, 04:27 AM   #18
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Takes too long with the cans, ended up just laying the paint after the 3 coat. Misting it for the first 3 layers. Anyways the car ended up getting wrecked. :/

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I had this happen on my old car.. I always thought it was just the wind or something. Cuz if I did it in a garage it came out perfect. Outside with the wind it came up rough and bubbly like that.


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thanks for all the great tips guys! and as for the just using water part.. i had a hope, and it ended up bacck firing. ill keep you guys posted on my next endeavor with this. im gonna try to do it later today if my schedule allows it.
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i thought i had this figured out

Honestly, the way the dip looks, it looks like there either was an unsteady stream of product (tipped can) or a lack of aerosol in the can. Looks very sandpaper like. The reason i'm leaning towards tipped can and improper spraying technique, is based on what you said. Your vertical areas came out very smooth, but your horizontal areas came out blotchy and rough. While improper washing probably contributed, i'm not sure it would cause that rough looking result. It looks like the plasti-dip is clumping when it's tilted, and forming clumps or bubbles. As another poster said, use a light misting from about 6-10" away, and repeat until the entire area is covered lightly. Then apply more coats. Keep the can as upright as possible to avoid blotchy spraying.


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i dont think its my technique only because everything you guys keep saying are all things im doing... 6-10", light even coats, no over spray, releasing when i change directions, all that.. i could maybe see the tipped can part, but how else and i supposed to do this? i took the spoiler off last time to paint it and put it on the floor
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i dont think its my technique only because everything you guys keep saying are all things im doing... 6-10", light even coats, no over spray, releasing when i change directions, all that.. i could maybe see the tipped can part, but how else and i supposed to do this? i took the spoiler off last time to paint it and put it on the floor

It could very well be the tipped car, honestly. To do the spoiler, just hold it at a very slight angle, and mist over it while keeping the can as vertical as possible, and see if that helps. Keep in mind, this is by no means, Paint. Plasti-dip is its own beast, and it takes a bit of practice to get it to cooperate. Like I said, Give it a shot with the can less angled, try to keep the car in shade while doing it. And if that doesn't work, it could very well be paint prep as the culprit. I've had results very similar to yours, but that was from a combination of poor angled spraying, and too cold of conditions. Hope it works out for ya man


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