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Old 09-10-2014, 06:50 AM   #1
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I was wanting to know how much hp my car has it is built engine with raised 11:1 compression with full bolt ons and 125 shot of nitrous.


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[QUOTE=jonathanadams22;2085947]I was wanting to know how much hp my car has it is built engine with raised 11:1 compression with full bolt ons and 125 shot of nitrous.

I figured at least 425 hp is in the ball park.
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Only way to know is have it put on a dyno. You should have had it dyno tuned after the build anyway. I have seen full bolt on cars only make 275 to the wheels. And as far as the 125 shot that also depends on temp and bottle pressure.

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[ QUOTE=Semerollin;2085949]Only way to know is have it put on a dyno. You should have had it dyno tuned after the build anyway. I have seen full bolt on cars only make 275 to the wheels. And as far as the 125 shot that also depends on temp and bottle pressure.

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Yea I am trying to find a dyno tune around me that I can go to. The guy I got it from was the one who had it built, so I really don't know if it's been dynoed or not. He had all the paper work showing what was done to it and all the other goodies from the shop, but not one from the a dyno tune, and I also keep the nitrous bottle at around 950 psi with my heater.



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If he had all the build paperwork and no dyno paperwork chances are it's never seen a dyno. Do you have a hand held tuner.

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I have a Bama tuner but I wouldn't think a hand held tune would do much for a built engine. Correct me if I am wrong.


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My guess ... 360 rwhp if it's a manual trans.

Also, who the hell ups the compression ratio on a 4.6? I know a PI swap will bump it up some on the older 4.6s, but it's pointless to try and make NA power with a 2v.
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My guess ... 360 rwhp if it's a manual trans.

Also, who the hell ups the compression ratio on a 4.6? I know a PI swap will bump it up some on the older 4.6s, but it's pointless to try and make NA power with a 2v.

Yea that is why I was thinking about an engine swap but I may just buy a progressive controller and up the nitrous to a 250 shot.


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Yea that is why I was thinking about an engine swap but I may just buy a progressive controller and up the nitrous to a 250 shot.


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I have a Bama tuner but I wouldn't think a hand held tune would do much for a built engine. Correct me if I am wrong.


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You can use it to ****** your timing a couple degree for the nitrous. What size injectors you running?

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You can use it to ****** your timing a couple degree for the nitrous. What size injectors you running?

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Are you running a stock plastic intake manifold?

I have the ford racing pi intake manifold which isn't a big deal to replace if I need to with something more heavy duty. Currently i am running 38 pound injectors.


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Yea that is why I was thinking about an engine swap but I may just buy a progressive controller and up the nitrous to a 250 shot.


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Progressive or not, a 4.6 isn't going to hold that kind of power without some good internals and spot on tuning.

You also have to keep in mind the rest of the drive train and fuel system too.


By the time you have all that money invested into this car, you will still have a hard time pulling away from a modded 5.0 or any modded LSx car.

If it were mine, I wouldn't put a penny into making that 4.6 fast, I would LSx swap it. Then again, I love my LSx.
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Progressive or not, a 4.6 isn't going to hold that kind of power without some good internals and spot on tuning.



You also have to keep in mind the rest of the drive train and fuel system too.





By the time you have all that money invested into this car, you will still have a hard time pulling away from a modded 5.0 or any modded LSx car.



If it were mine, I wouldn't put a penny into making that 4.6 fast, I would LSx swap it. Then again, I love my LSx.

Okay thanks how much money do you think it would cost to do a swap like that I have about 3300 saved up but I am still saving about 300 a week.


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Okay thanks how much money do you think it would cost to do a swap like that I have about 3300 saved up but I am still saving about 300 a week.


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I'm not trying to race either my parents would kill me keep in mind I am only sixteen. I have a good paying job. That allows for me to be able to put money in my car. So you don't think that forged internals rated to 800 horses will hold with 250 shot of nitrous. I won't ever run that much without a solid dyno tune tho and upgraded fuel system.


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sounds like you should be making payments towards a Termi or newer car while your financially able to. Then when you move out of your parents your laughing with a nice new car.
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sounds like you should be making payments towards a Termi or newer car while your financially able to. Then when you move out of your parents your laughing with a nice new car.

Yea I never thought about that. I don't know how I would finance it unless one of my parents co-signed it. I might do that now that you have me thinking about that lol.


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My guess ... 360 rwhp if it's a manual trans.

Also, who the hell ups the compression ratio on a 4.6? I know a PI swap will bump it up some on the older 4.6s, but it's pointless to try and make NA power with a 2v.

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16 and a 250 shot has bad new wrote all over it.

People throw a big shot all over the place on here, but truth be told once you start messing with 200+ you better have your mind right.

I went over the built 2v, in another thread for you already.
I told you what my cousins 2v with a 5.4 swap stroked to a 5.7 Trick flow heads, stage 5 nitrous cam, manifold, full exhaust, full boltons, 11.1 compression the whole 9 yards ads 340 on motor.







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16 and a 250 shot has bad new wrote all over it.

People throw a big shot all over the place on here, but truth be told once you start messing with 200+ you better have your mind right.

I went over the built 2v, in another thread for you already.
I told you what my cousins 2v with a 5.4 swap stroked to a 5.7 Trick flow heads, stage 5 nitrous cam, manifold, full exhaust, full boltons, 11.1 compression the whole 9 yards ads 340 on motor.







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Yea I think I am going to leave it as it is until summer. I got the shop to bump the shot up to 125 and had them put a new high quality fuel pump in and I'll just have to tube it for now with my Bama tune. At least I know my engine is safe since I have forged internals.


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yah 3k down + 600 a month payments + whatever you can sell your car for = new GT. That or in 4 years when you decide you want something new or newer and your making rent payments, food ect. may be just out of reach or maybe easier to afford who knows. Just my opinion.
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[ QUOTE=TurboCobra;2086080]yah 3k down + 600 a month payments + whatever you can sell your car for = new GT. That or in 4 years when you decide you want something new or newer and your making rent payments, food ect. may be just out of reach or maybe easier to afford who knows. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]


That's a pretty good idea I'm going to go start looking at some dealers in my area and see some prices and see about financing that.



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Just bc your forged, does not mean you can handle a 250+ shot. Your motor needs to be built for nitrous to hit it with that much, the builder would have your ring gap set for a big shot.

And are you planning on pulling 250 of the rail?

Hard lined? Or soft?
Does it go lean on the initial hit right now?




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Just bc your forged, does not mean you can handle a 250+ shot. Your motor needs to be built for nitrous to hit it with that much, the builder would have your ring gap set for a big shot.

And are you planning on pulling 250 of the rail?

Hard lined? Or soft?
Does it go lean on the initial hit right now?




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I know I'm not going anywhere near 250 for now I'll keep it at 125 and maybe Try to sell it to get a good payment down on a new gt.


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If you have any plans on selling it, take the nitrous kit off now, and do not spray it anymore.

A dealer will not take the car with a nitrous kit.

Also most people will not buy a car from a 16 year old, knowing he had nitrous on the car.




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If you have any plans on selling it, take the nitrous kit off now, and do not spray it anymore.

A dealer will not take the car with a nitrous kit.

Also most people will not buy a car from a 16 year old, knowing he had nitrous on the car.




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Yea that's what I'll do I'll just keep it to re install in the new car of I do do that.


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Rapinator, Have you seen Jonathans car lol I think the only potential buyers he is going to get are the ones who think NOS is cool .. I think he should leave the nitrous as the car looks far from stock form and the potential buyers to a car like this would probably look at that as a selling feature. Some highschool kid I am sure will pick it up rite quick

Its a nice car Jon, but after reading your threads lately its obvious your in search of something newer and faster and that's why I recommend selling it.
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Rapinator, Have you seen Jonathans car lol I think the only potential buyers he is going to get are the ones who think NOS is cool .. I think he should leave the nitrous as the car looks far from stock form and the potential buyers to a car like this would probably look at that as a selling feature. Some highschool kid I am sure will pick it up rite quick

Haha yea they would because every time I pull up to school people go crazy over it.


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This mustang looks pretty sweet it has a supercharged lightning engine. http://jackson.craigslist.org/cto/4596769328.html Click image for larger version

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Don't buy someone else's project lol I did and its a head ache and besides that car is 15k .. you can get a 2011 or up for 20-25-30k .. Your still going to have the interior that you cant stand lol
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^ there you go, I would still get a newer car though, the lighting swapped cars are not verry impressive in quickness.

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Don't buy someone else's project lol I did and its a head ache and besides that car is 15k .. you can get a 2011 or up for 20-25-30k .. Your still going to have the interior that you cant stand lol

Haha yea If I get another mustang it won't be a new edge. While they are my favorite body style the engine doswnt make that much power and the interiors are so outdated.


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Haha yea If I get another mustang it won't be a new edge. While they are my favorite body style the engine don't make that much power and the interiors are so outdated.


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yup, that's why you need to love it for what it is. Full bolt on GT with good rims and rubber and with some suttle appearance mods and drive the car like you stole it. Anything much more then that and you should be looking at a newer car.
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yup, that's why you need to love it for what it is. Full bolt on GT with good rims and rubber and with some suttle appearance mods and drive the car like you stole it. Anything much more then that and you should be looking at a newer car.

Lol. I am going to talk with my parents later today and see if they can consign on a loan. I have 3000 saved up and can get 7000 out of my car. That's about what they are going for around here especially with it being so heavily modded since people don't really seem to be willing to pay more for a modded car in my area.


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yah 10k down and you said you save 300 a week so 1200 a month towards payments lol you could own a newer 5.0 paid off in a year or so lol sounds like a better deal then a engine swap and new wheels for the current car and you will most likely be happy with it for the next 10 years where realistically your going to grow out of your current car sooner then later
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yah 10k down and you said you save 300 a week so 1200 a month towards payments lol you could own a new 5.0 paid off in a year or so lol sounds like a better deal then a engine swap and new wheels for the current car and you will most likely be happy with it for the next 10 years where realistically your going to grow out of your current car sooner then later
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16 and a 250 shot has bad new wrote all over it.

People throw a big shot all over the place on here, but truth be told once you start messing with 200+ you better have your mind right.

I went over the built 2v, in another thread for you already.
I told you what my cousins 2v with a 5.4 swap stroked to a 5.7 Trick flow heads, stage 5 nitrous cam, manifold, full exhaust, full boltons, 11.1 compression the whole 9 yards ads 340 on motor.







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My only question is why did he stroke the 5.4? It already has a stroke longer than every single LS engine ever made, the weak link in these motors is the size of the bore. That's probably why he didn't pick up a lot of power. They need a 3.7" bore, that alone with the stock stroke of the 5.4 will make it a 5.8.

Also that's the 2v, the 5.4 4v you can make upper 400s NA quite easily from everything I've seen.


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