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Old 11-20-2014, 08:13 PM   #1
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Going into gears

I'm just curious on this. When I go to 1st, 2nd,3rd gear it won't shift smooth. Yes I push the clutch all the way, and sometimes it just goes into the gear smooth. But other times I feel like there's something in the way so I have to give it a little more nudge.

Any idea what it could be? Or is it normal?


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I have stock clutch, shifter, etc


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What year is the car? Helps future out which transmission you have.


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What year is the car? Helps future out which transmission you have.


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2001


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im betting tr3650 with store brand merconV, possibly hasn't been changed in a while, or recently changed and overfilled.
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im betting tr3650 with store brand merconV, possibly hasn't been changed in a while, or recently changed and overfilled.

I got this car man, and do not know what kind of clutch is in it. Probably stock


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I got this car man, and do not know what kind of clutch is in it. Probably stock


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we need the year of your stang to determine. but if you just got the car like this, then i would start with changing the fluid. if it has a 3650 tranny, 3.2 quarts of pennzoil synchromesh is what most would reccomend. you can use mobil1 synth. ford says MerconV, but i wasnt happy with it in mine. too much fluid im pretty sure can cause at least 1-2 and 2-3 to be a hassle to put in gear.
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we need the year of your stang to determine. but if you just got the car like this, then i would start with changing the fluid. if it has a 3650 tranny, 3.2 quarts of pennzoil synchromesh is what most would reccomend. you can use mobil1 synth. ford says MerconV, but i wasnt happy with it in mine. too much fluid im pretty sure can cause at least 1-2 and 2-3 to be a hassle to put in gear.

Oh my mistake yes I did do an oil change I used penzoil.

The car runs great but the shifting doesn't feel right. Sometimes it goes into the gear smooth sometimes it use a little kore force to put it in the gear


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The 3650 they put in the 2001 is notorious for bad shift forks. They fixed it in 2002.

I put my money on that


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The 3650 they put in the 2001 is notorious for bad shift forks. They fixed it in 2002.

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Any way I can fix that?


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Transmission rebuild with upgraded forks


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Transmission rebuild with upgraded forks


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Ugh....don't know where to start


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keep readin through the forum. theres plenty of old posts talking about different tranny issues and such. you may stumble upon some descriptions that might match whats goin on with yours and give you better leads. thats how i fixed a few things in my car.
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I've got the same issues. My 3rd gear does not like to go in at all under heavy acceleration. Its hit or miss if it will get blocked or if it will go in.
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I've got the same issues. My 3rd gear does not like to go in at all under heavy acceleration. Its hit or miss if it will get blocked or if it will go in.

That's the thing tho, when I launch or Just going slow it takes a little force sometimes to shift


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When you changed the transmission fluid, exactly how many quarts did you refill it with?
And what brand of transmission fluid did you use?
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:23 PM   #17
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I say it's the clutch fork. How many miles is on the car ?


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Old 11-20-2014, 10:25 PM   #18
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Going into gears

Or they put an aftermarket clutch in or clutch cable and it's not adjusted right. I had to hassle this with my 03 gt and I just gave up and upgraded to a t56 and a brand new clutch and clutch cable.


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When my v6 was doing that (hard to shift, feels like blockage) it ended up needing a new clutch. I think it was the pressure plate messed up? Idk. But it's a diff transmission too. Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. Change the trans fluid to Mobil1 synth @3.2 qts and see how it goes. Cheap and easy way to see if it's somethin more serious or nt.


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Old 11-21-2014, 01:46 PM   #20
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I'd say it's the synchro's. The TR3650's are nown for being notchy and 'nibbling' gears when you shift. I'd check to see what clutch quadrant you have. If it's stock (plastic) it could be cracked or flexing when your putting the pedal down. This could cause the clutch to not disengage completely. Same could be true if you're cable is stretched or fraying. The stock setup is spring loaded and self adjusting. It's pretty well known on the Mach 1's anyway, that when you are accelorating to redline, your stock quadrant and cable can be the cause of missing shifts or being 'blocked' from shifting in to gear. Getting an aftermarket quadrant (aluminum) and able will really help this. If you already have an aftermarket quadrant and cable, it could need to be adjusted just a bit. As mentioned in this thread, 3.2QTs of Mobile 1 synthetic ATF or Penzoil stuff is a better choice that what was in the tranny OEM.
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Well mine is the same way. When I first bought the car I swapped fluid for royal purple and installed a new quadrant and adjustable cable. I couldn't tell any difference.

Mine is the t45 though.
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Royal Purple is notoriously bad for the synchros of the TR3650. It messes with them somehow. I noticed that it got worse when I tried it in mine. Not sure if it's an issue on the T45's.


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Royal Purple is notoriously bad for the synchros of the TR3650. It messes with them somehow. I noticed that it got worse when I tried it in mine. Not sure if it's an issue on the T45's.


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Well..in all honesty, about 6 months ago I had my tail housing off and when I put it back together I used the cheapest ATF I could find. I did this because I assumed it couldn't get any worse than it already was.

When I got it all back together I thought the trans shifted much better. It's still far from smooth though.
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Royal Purple is notoriously bad for the synchros of the TR3650. It messes with them somehow. I noticed that it got worse when I tried it in mine. Not sure if it's an issue on the T45's.


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The myth is that it eats away at the rings in the transmission. From several hours of researching this topic a month ago and talking to several representatives of both Tremec and Royal Purple I've concluded its just a myth backed with little to no evidence.

Royal Purple of course says it's fine to use. Tremec says they have never tested it, not even once and have no idea about the long term effects.

I have synchromax in my 05 and 09 and have only positive things to say about it. Over 70k on my 05 with that fluid by the way, so if It does cause damage it might take awhile. I don't see It happening though because nothing in the fluid is even remotely corrosive. Who knows?


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Old 11-28-2014, 01:17 PM   #27
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Just switched to pennzoil synchromesh, and oh man, it shifts like i thought a manual was supposed to. (This is my first manual) i ended up putting 3.4~3.5 qts in because 3.0 my transmission makes a loud noise in 5th constantly. 3.2 it makes noise til its hot. And 3.5 it makes noise when its cold out and goes away after a mile or so. Everywhere i searched, everyone shrugs off that grinding "wet rocks in a tumbler" noise. So idk

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