Clutch shimmy sound. - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1996-2004 Mustang GT



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 11-30-2014, 07:28 PM   #1
Registered User
Newbie
 
sten37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Blacklick/Gahanna
Region: Ohio
Posts: 9
Clutch shimmy sound.

Hey I have a 96 gt 5 speed that I just got a new clutch put in and the peddle has Vibrations that are all the time. It makes a knocking sound that comes and goes from the transmission. Had the throw out bearing changed with the clutch. Some times when you get out of the car and look at the clutch fork(I have the cover off) you can see a good amount of vibration. It does not matter if the car is moving or stopped.
Any ideas on where this noise is coming from? I have changed every clutch component possible too.
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByMustang Evolution1417397241.190950.jpg
Views:	80
Size:	1.16 MB
ID:	170590


Ben
sten37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-30-2014, 07:58 PM   #2
Registered User
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Central Texas
Region: Texas
Posts: 3
If it's an aftermarket performance clutch they will have more vibration and noise than stock clutches.
__________________
Fear of failure is only for those arrogant enough to think
that some how they can achieve success without paying the price...
BlackWidowGT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2014, 11:09 PM   #3
Registered User
Newbie
 
sten37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Blacklick/Gahanna
Region: Ohio
Posts: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackWidowGT View Post
If it's an aftermarket performance clutch they will have more vibration and noise than stock clutches.

I think it is the clutch pivot ball. I had a friend put it in and he might not have put it at the right depth


Ben
sten37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-01-2014, 09:51 PM   #4
Staff
Regular
Staff
 
scottydsntknow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: JB MDL
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 16,610
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackWidowGT View Post
If it's an aftermarket performance clutch they will have more vibration and noise than stock clutches.
Completely false unless its a junk clutch or some crazy ceramic jobber or the lulzy thing that is the centerfoce. Something is wrong with his clutch or the installer boogered something up. Hell it could be as simple as the tob is not installed right on the fork. Some mechanics are idiots honestly. I'd go back to the shop and demand they fix it.

Sent from my VS980 4G using Mustang Evolution mobile app
__________________
2000 Mustang GT Steeda #0048

Just because I give you advice, doesn't mean I know more than you. Its just means I've done more stupid ****.
scottydsntknow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2014, 09:54 PM   #5
Staff
Regular
Staff
 
scottydsntknow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: JB MDL
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 16,610
Quote:
Originally Posted by sten37 View Post
I think it is the clutch pivot ball. I had a friend put it in and he might not have put it at the right depth


Ben
Pivot balls in the t45 are fixed. Your friend ****ed something up on the install or you have a bad part. Time to pull it back out...

Sent from my VS980 4G using Mustang Evolution mobile app
__________________
2000 Mustang GT Steeda #0048

Just because I give you advice, doesn't mean I know more than you. Its just means I've done more stupid ****.
scottydsntknow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2014, 11:02 PM   #6
Registered User
Newbie
 
sten37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Blacklick/Gahanna
Region: Ohio
Posts: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottydsntknow View Post
Pivot balls in the t45 are fixed. Your friend ****ed something up on the install or you have a bad part. Time to pull it back out...

Sent from my VS980 4G using Mustang Evolution mobile app
Yea thank you very much im gonna just take it out my self and make sure everything is right and to spec



Ben
sten37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2014, 05:54 AM   #7
Registered Member
Regular
 
thyreaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 328
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottydsntknow View Post
Pivot balls in the t45 are fixed. Your friend ****ed something up on the install or you have a bad part. Time to pull it back out...

Sent from my VS980 4G using Mustang Evolution mobile app

If its the stock one then yes but if not then it could have an adjustable, i see no reason for it to be an adjustable in there but im just sayin, like scotty said it could be anything, u can also get clutch vibration from a warped flywheel too and something that could help is on our cable transmissions theres nothing to fully pull the fork away from the clutch so i got me a brake spring and attached it to the fork and the tranny so when the clutch is not pushed in it is fully pulled away so the throwout bearing isnt touching the pressure plate at all it helps from the annoying lil chirpy sounds that i use to get from it and also the lil bit of vibrration from the crappy flywheel i have


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
thyreaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2014, 06:39 AM   #8
Staff
Regular
Staff
 
scottydsntknow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: JB MDL
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 16,610
Quote:
Originally Posted by thyreaper View Post
If its the stock one then yes but if not then it could have an adjustable, i see no reason for it to be an adjustable in there but im just sayin, like scotty said it could be anything, u can also get clutch vibration from a warped flywheel too and something that could help is on our cable transmissions theres nothing to fully pull the fork away from the clutch so i got me a brake spring and attached it to the fork and the tranny so when the clutch is not pushed in it is fully pulled away so the throwout bearing isnt touching the pressure plate at all it helps from the annoying lil chirpy sounds that i use to get from it and also the lil bit of vibrration from the crappy flywheel i have


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
This method is only a stopgap until one replaces the clutch and is actually really bad for the TOB and the clutch fingers. The TOB is designed to always be spinning, never still. Think about it, if the TOB is not touching the clutch what do you think happens when you push the clutch in at a higher RPM shift? The TOB goes from 0-5000+ RPM in a split second which is hell on it, hell on the clutch fingers and creates a lot of heat . Freeplay kits are a bad idea, period.

As far as the T-45, its a non-adjustable pivot ball. Whole thing needs to come out and have a thorough inspection of wtf is causing it to jump around like that. Could be the TOB is not on the fork right, fork might not be snapped into the ball properly or his friend didn't get the clutch properly seated on the flywheel and torqued evenly.

Also OP, I hope you had him change the flywheel too, if not, pick one up and have it ready to go beforehand. Putting a new clutch in with an old flywheel will lead to hotspots and future issues since it'll never break in properly.
__________________
2000 Mustang GT Steeda #0048

Just because I give you advice, doesn't mean I know more than you. Its just means I've done more stupid ****.
scottydsntknow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2014, 06:57 AM   #9
Registered Member
Regular
 
thyreaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 328
Clutch shimmy sound.

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottydsntknow View Post
This method is only a stopgap until one replaces the clutch and is actually really bad for the TOB and the clutch fingers. The TOB is designed to always be spinning, never still. Think about it, if the TOB is not touching the clutch what do you think happens when you push the clutch in at a higher RPM shift? The TOB goes from 0-5000+ RPM in a split second which is hell on it, hell on the clutch fingers and creates a lot of heat . Freeplay kits are a bad idea, period.



As far as the T-45, its a non-adjustable pivot ball. Whole thing needs to come out and have a thorough inspection of wtf is causing it to jump around like that. Could be the TOB is not on the fork right, fork might not be snapped into the ball properly or his friend didn't get the clutch properly seated on the flywheel and torqued evenly.



Also OP, I hope you had him change the flywheel too, if not, pick one up and have it ready to go beforehand. Putting a new clutch in with an old flywheel will lead to hotspots and future issues since it'll never break in properly.

U may be on to something but ive seen hydraulic setups and the tob dont touch all the time , i think in theory i could see how it would be bad for it to go from 0 to 5500+ but i think it just dont put it under as much stress as u would think to go from 0-5500 cuz my friend did his and now has 60k on his clutch and counting and ive gone through 3 tobs and this one in the car is otw out the door but a week ago i put the springs to pull it away and also ordered me a ford racing tob ( the one from the ram clutch i have in there is whats in there atm so it should be a good one as well) however when it goes ( im hoping it makes it till it warms back up also known as spring) ima just pull the motor cuz i have another motor that i put modified valves in so i dont have to worry to much about ptv issues with a better cam and then tax time ima either get a 4v motor and build the bottom end for boost or ima just build the block that comes out for boost and stop at 500-600 hp seeing as tho its gonna be my DD and i dont care who u are a full interrior 600hp street car that has a.c still is very fun


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
thyreaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2014, 10:32 AM   #10
Registered Member
Regular
 
Billgluckman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Gluckman
Region: Other
Posts: 451
There's a youtube video showing how to correctly install the tob. Be sure to look at that. Whoever installed mine before I bought the car had the bearing on wrong.
Billgluckman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1996-2004 Mustang GT

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HELP!!! Whistling sound coming from the front/ engine making a clicking sound. Whitestang23 2005-2010 V6 Mustang 5 07-03-2013 05:36 PM
Shimmy Iowaboy13 Pre-2005 V6 Mustang 11 04-03-2013 06:01 PM
clutch clutch... clutch Butch SVT Mustang 4 06-29-2012 04:53 PM
Steering vibration/shimmy Aggiesrok 2005-2010 Mustang GT 5 01-19-2012 09:50 PM
how (if it could) make my auto sound to a manual sound MaKaVeLi 1996-2004 Mustang GT 18 10-18-2006 10:56 AM

» Like Us On Facebook



08:27 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.