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Old 12-29-2014, 08:00 PM   #1
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Isolaters or nah?

So for Christmas my gf got me some sr springs.. AM recommended rubber Isolaters to Her.. So she got them.

You don't have to have the Isolaters right?

I've read SR's are one of the ones that you don't NEED camber plates on.. Is that right?

I've also read that SR's don't drop that much as is.. So if I don't need the Isolaters, and I put them on.. Will there be much drop at all? If not, I will keep the Isolaters off if plausible. Arent the isolators just for a smoother ride?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks for the answers.
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You don't have to install the isolators if you don't want to, they'll usually add a quarter to half an inch to your drop depending in how bad your old ones are. The SR springs drop 1.5" if I remember right so you can try to get away without C/C plates. Isolators are there to reduce NVH (noise, vibration, and harshness). When I removed mine I didn't notice much of a difference in NVH personally, all I did is wrap the ends of the springs in electrical tape to reduce the metal on metal contact
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So for Christmas my gf got me some sr springs.. AM recommended rubber Isolaters to Her.. So she got them.

You don't have to have the Isolaters right?

I've read SR's are one of the ones that you don't NEED camber plates on.. Is that right?

I've also read that SR's don't drop that much as is.. So if I don't need the Isolaters, and I put them on.. Will there be much drop at all? If not, I will keep the Isolaters off if plausible. Arent the isolators just for a smoother ride?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks for the answers.
I just transferred my oem isolators onto my SR springs. Didnt use caster plates or bolts but did buy the j&m adjustable panhard bar. My rear end was only out around 1/4". Drove my car like this for months with no issues.
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I just transferred my oem isolators onto my SR springs. Didnt use caster plates or bolts but did buy the j&m adjustable panhard bar. My rear end was only out around 1/4". Drove my car like this for months with no issues.
His/her mustang is a 99-04 these don't come with a panhard this was in 05 when they changed the rear


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I think with the 1.5" drop you will be fine without the CC plates. I have H&R supersports and I needed that little extra bit for my alignment so you should be OK there or get real close to spec on the alignment. I wish I would have installed mine without the isos. I would have wrapped them in a heavy tape or use a bicycle tire and wrapped that around the bottom instead. I have always heard that the SR springs are a good spring for the price. I vote without isos for your application.

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Alright so sounds like I will leave the isolators in the box. Who has a1.5 drop here? I'm wondering if it's really worth the money to install if it won't drop me that much. Wondering if it will be enough to achieve that aggressive stance. I will be paying to get them installed with a front end alignment. Guessing around 400$
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At 1.5" you'll need CC plates. If not have fun buying new tires every year. Get the Max Motorsports CC plates, the SR ones are trash.

There is the right way to do this and then the cheap out way that'll wind up costing you more in the future. Ppl always seem to have the $$ to do things right the second time around.
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So for Christmas my gf got me some sr springs.. AM recommended rubber Isolaters to Her.. So she got them.

You don't have to have the Isolaters right?

I've read SR's are one of the ones that you don't NEED camber plates on.. Is that right?

I've also read that SR's don't drop that much as is.. So if I don't need the Isolaters, and I put them on.. Will there be much drop at all? If not, I will keep the Isolaters off if plausible. Arent the isolators just for a smoother ride?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks for the answers.
Hey V6-She got you car parts for Christmas!? Time to start shopping for a ring!

We recommend them because if you're going to have them swapped out it's a good idea to trash the OEM pieces as they're likely going to be heavily deteriorated/weathered. Especially for a 16 year old car I would use them as the noise/vibration could become a nuisance. This is just my .02 and I've done this on my '01 as well.

If you do have them used they're so small they honestly wont affect the drop/look of the car: Id say "Ya", I think you'll be happier in the long run with the ride quality:

If you're looking on the SR Performance Lowering Springs page check out the Customer Submitted Images to get a better idea of how they're going to look on your car.

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At 1.5" he should be on the border of CC plates. Im 1 3/4" lower than stock and my alignment guy said I barely needed them. Typically in the alignment Shop I go to they can align mustang's with a 1.5" drop without CC plates. They quoted me this before I lowered my car at all so I knew what I needed to install to make things right.

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1.5 inches is on the border of needing CC plates. Anything after 1.5 inches and you better order some CC plates. Plus their range of adjustability for your alignment is awesome. As for brand. Maximum Motorsports. Nothing else.
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1.5 inches is on the border of needing CC plates. Anything after 1.5 inches and you better order some CC plates. Plus their range of adjustability for your alignment is awesome. As for brand. Maximum Motorsports. Nothing else.
Not sure how i manged to forget this, thanks Soc! On the plates I think the Maximum Motorsports are the best out there as well, those guys don't mess around!
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I was thinking of just doing the springs myself but does it require anything special? If I could pay my friend 100$ to help, that's way better than the 400$ for a mechanic. Has anyone paid for install before and if so how much did it cost? Seems like i should just put the isolators on if it won't make that big of a difference.


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Doing the springs is ridiculously easy. Took me a few hours my first time, but now they are cake. This is the video i used to help me do it. Helps a lot

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Yeah, definitely get isolators. My car squeaks now.

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If you do leave the isos out I'd definitely wrap/tape the ends of the springs. I used black electrical tape on my H&R Super Sports for my 03 over three years ago and they've been fine.

It sounds like you want a more aggressive drop..slammed rather than mild.

1.5" is probably the lowest you'll want to go if the car is a daily driver or if the local roads are in poor condition. My 03 is lowered over 2" in the front and ~1.8" in the rear and I've had to completely alter my driving habits (when I actually do drive the car). I also cannot turn to full lock after the drop and with 17x9's.

Do let me know how much the car dropped once the springs settle and if you left the isos out. I have a set sitting in my room waiting for the Mach this spring
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If you do leave the isos out I'd definitely wrap/tape the ends of the springs. I used black electrical tape on my H&R Super Sports for my 03 over three years ago and they've been fine.

It sounds like you want a more aggressive drop..slammed rather than mild.

1.5" is probably the lowest you'll want to go if the car is a daily driver or if the local roads are in poor condition. My 03 is lowered over 2" in the front and ~1.8" in the rear and I've had to completely alter my driving habits (when I actually do drive the car). I also cannot turn to full lock after the drop and with 17x9's.

Do let me know how much the car dropped once the springs settle and if you left the isos out. I have a set sitting in my room waiting for the Mach this spring
You rub with a 2" drop? That's weird cause mine doesn't have any issues with rubbing and it's dropped 2.5" up front.

OP I'll try and download some of my older pictures later tonight from when mine was lowered on H&R Race springs
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You rub with a 2" drop? That's weird cause mine doesn't have any issues with rubbing and it's dropped 2.5" up front.

OP I'll try and download some of my older pictures later tonight from when mine was lowered on H&R Race springs
Yah I rub the sway bar pretty bad at full lock..maybe it's the 9" wheels. How wide are your fronts? Mine are 275's. And 2.5 inches??!! I'm assuming coilovers or bags...
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I'm lowered on coilovers pretty low in the front with 275/35s on an 18x9. Very very very minor rubbing on the sway bar on full lock. Enough to where I can't even feel it, you can only see where the tire touches the sway bar when the wheel is off and looking at it. No marks on the tires either.

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Yah I rub the sway bar pretty bad at full lock..maybe it's the 9" wheels. How wide are your fronts? Mine are 275's. And 2.5 inches??!! I'm assuming coilovers or bags...
I have 9" wheels but only 245s and previously had 255s so that may be the difference. I'm on cut springs that I inherited with my IRS.
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Finally got around to downloading those pictures again. Dropped on H&R Race springs
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I had mine lowered with eibach pro kit for a while(avi pic). All I needed were camber bolts.

My wheels rubbed the front sway bar at full lock as well. Ended up going back to stock with poly isos, been thinking about pulling the rears to lower a bit.
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If you do leave the isos out I'd definitely wrap/tape the ends of the springs. I used black electrical tape on my H&R Super Sports for my 03 over three years ago and they've been fine.

It sounds like you want a more aggressive drop..slammed rather than mild.

1.5" is probably the lowest you'll want to go if the car is a daily driver or if the local roads are in poor condition. My 03 is lowered over 2" in the front and ~1.8" in the rear and I've had to completely alter my driving habits (when I actually do drive the car). I also cannot turn to full lock after the drop and with 17x9's.

Do let me know how much the car dropped once the springs settle and if you left the isos out. I have a set sitting in my room waiting for the Mach this spring

Yeah probably a good choice. Our roads are pretty poor in this town and isolators would probably help with the ride. I'm just worried about spending this money and it barely doing anything. Oh well live and learn I suppose.

Soccer, thats a great video thanks for sharing. Unfortunately nothing goes as smooth for me as it does for the video makers lol. Maybe I can pay my friend 100$ and we can get it done together.


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Finally got around to downloading those pictures again. Dropped on H&R Race springs

Car has a good stance. It's probably dropped more than Sr's will though, right? I hear eibachs are really good.


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Car has a good stance. It's probably dropped more than Sr's will though, right? I hear eibachs are really good.


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H&R race springs are around a 1" drop give or take. The SRs are a 1.5" drop I believe. But the H&Rs will outperform the SR springs.


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H&R race springs are around a 1" drop give or take. The SRs are a 1.5" drop I believe. But the H&Rs will outperform the SR springs.


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That was dropped 1.5", I removed the front and rear isolators to get that
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I'm old school going all out doing it right or nothiong at all. Same parts on each SN95, just different manufacturures maybe.
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Here is my wheel gap atm.. Hopefully springs will help it ALOT. Click image for larger version

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The springs will help a ton. You will like it with a 1.5" drop. You may have to let them break in a little to get the full 1.5" after a few hundred miles. At least I know some springs can be that way. Mine dropped about 1/4" after 500-600 miles or so. So don't get discouraged right away. I know after a while my 1 3/4" drop isn't enough I want it about another 1/2" lower now but I'm still satisfied with the look verse the way it was before.

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If you take your iso's out post what you think about nvh. I think im going to take mine out when I lose the pro kit and put in my tein s tech springs...

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I took my isolators out on my stock springs. Made no difference. No such thing as isolators with these coilovers also. I only hear them with the windows down and I'm going through corners.


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Did you do the electrical tape method? Soccer, I have an s197 bullitt for sale with you name all over it lol

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Nope. Just took the isolators off and put the springs back on.

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Nope. Just took the isolators off and put the springs back on.

I'd love another Bullitt, but I gotta start saving for a DD lol


Bullitts are better than Bullets
Any noticeable drop in height? I think the tein s techs are 2.5" and 2.7" drop.... combined with no isolators i should chew up the chin spoiler in no time

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