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Old 01-01-2015, 11:59 PM   #1
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o/r h pipe too loud?

Hi guys ive had my 04 gt for about 5 months now have done a few repairs and cosmetic mods to her. finally going to the fun stuff. first off exhaust just bought a pair of flowmaster 40 series mufflers. im looking for a deep rumble loud sound just not obnoxious loud hence why im looking for h pipes. ive been looking at jegs, mac , and pypes as i am looking for something simple and not wanting to go over board as i am also saving up for some wide wheels. my question is would an o/r h be too loud ? like attention wise maybe even annoying after a while? ive read straight through mid with chambered mufflers can give a headache after awhile. what h pipe would you guys recommend ? would you recommend it all for troubles of removing cats sake ? i am in florida so i know there is no emissions testing but i always think of worst case scenarios as driving around with no cats. i have read multiple threads already on the h pipe but they all seem to have there goods and bads i am planning on purchasing by next week . as i am tired of my stock exhaust.

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I've been running an offroad h with flowmaster 44s for almost 2 years with no issues. Its loud, but not stupid loud. I live in California btw.
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any recommendations on a specific h for my flowmasters?
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Running divorced duals into flowmaster 40's on my Mach 1. It's definitely loud, but surprisingly isn't terrible inside the car. Now I've heard different from people driving behind/next to me lol, and that's with factory headers.

40 series are one of the louder offerings from flowmaster, with super 10's being the most aggressive. You could always run an o/r h pipe and sell the 40's and pick up a milder muffler like a 50 series delta flow.

If you're looking for louder than stock but not ridiculous loud look into a pro chamber or hi flow catted h-pipe and your flow 40's. Might spend a bit more for the mid pipe but the sound quality will be there.
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im looking for really deep rumbling sound to make the ground shake and car alarms go off. nah im jk but you get the idea which is why jegs and mac are my top contenders right now with the 40 series
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any recommendations on a specific h for my flowmasters?
I've heard positive things about the BBK, and Pypes h-pipes. Also good things about the MAC prochamber.

Fitment is the biggest thing with these midpipes. Also remember to buy an h-pipe that's for factory/shorty headers. The shorter h-pipes are designed to run with long tubes and will not work without additional fab up to your stock manifolds.
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yea im aware of the stock headers vs long tubes. what about jegs anything good ? thats what im leaning towards as well as the mil eliminators. i know someone selling a steeda xpipe with high flow cats for 250 although i have never heard of that im not sure if he means bbk but would this be the sound i am looking for ?
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For the most part, the x-pipes generate more of a raspy tone while the h-pipes give you the deeper, old school muscle car rumble. If that's what you're looking for stick with the h-pipe plan. Steeda is a well known brand in the mustang world and I would recommend their stuff but generally it's pricey.

I haven't heard any feedback, positive or negative about the jegs pipes. Again I'd say as long as the welds and fitment is there, that's what matters.
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yea would you say steeda x pipe for 250 vs jegs h 160 or mac 180 with about 50 for the eliminators/
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How much do those run for?
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I found put what mid pipe he was selling. It was not steeda. It's magnaflow catted x pipe for 250.

My question is I'm looking for a deep muscle sound . Magnaflow x pipe 250 vs Mac o/r h 180 .

I'm ready to pull the trigger today and want to et it right the first time.
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If you want a deep muscle car sound stay away from X pipes.


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How would magnaflow catted x pipe sound with flowmasters 40 series mufflers?

Would it be loud? Too raspy? Would it sound good or just flat out horrible.

I like the idea of catted to be on the safe side so I wouldn't mind waiting for an h pipe if I don't like the x pipe.
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I put a BBK off road X-Pipe and a pair of Magnaflows and I can't remember the designation all came from American Muscle. I was looking for that rumbling mellow sound so I called and talked to a gentleman at American Muscle and kind of described the sound I was looking for but more than sound I was looking at Horse Power. I think the sound I hoped to get is basically the sound of a big block with a low restriction exhaust but what I got performance wise was obvious when I backed the car out and drove to my section of seldom traveled county road where I have 1/2 mile marked on the road. It was enough of a HP increase to be noticeable probably 15 HP. But I didn't get mellow or rumbling. When I was 15 I bought a 53 Chevy W/A 235 CI 6 Cyl. I put a split manifold with two one barrel carbs and straight pipes, that's the sound I got. I like loud but I may have gotten more than I wanted. I am going to try it for a while and see the first extended trip I take just how bad it is. I am having some pretty bad headaches right now so I don't need to intensify them. If I do have to make a change I will definitely keep the X-Pipe because that is where the HP is. So try to find someone with a combination you are interested in and get them to send you an audio to road test.
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I have magnaflow catted x pipe with 40s. Not loud at all or raspy. About to get O/R X pipe.


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When you go to the o-r x-pipe it may be louder than you want because that is the mufflers I have.
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Yeah. My old gt had off road x pipe and super 44s. So I'm prepared! And ready! Lol.

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Went with the magnaflow catted x see how it is for now. Although no hardware was included anyone know if the shops will have them
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Went with the magnaflow catted x see how it is for now. Although no hardware was included anyone know if the shops will have them
You will need to get a new gasket for the Passenger side. Reuse the bolts from the stock manifolds. Also I'm sure the Magnaflow has the bolts built in for the catback.
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Went with the magnaflow catted x see how it is for now. Although no hardware was included anyone know if the shops will have them
I think you'll be happy with the catted option. It didn't seem like you wanted extremely loud so the catted midpipe will amplify the exhaust characteristics of the mufflers more than stock but not as loud as an off road setup. There will be more of a raspy, race car note than a deep rumbly muscle car note but it will still sound good.

If you don't care for the sound down the road you can always sell the catted x-pipe (there are always guys who want one and don't want to pay retail) and get a pro chamber or h-pipe.
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Yea . Thy what I plan on doing let's see how I like. I know I'm going to ache because I really wanted that deep rumbling note.

Also I have an 04 so I think I may need o2 extensions doe anyone know about this?
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I believe you will need the extensions for the 02 sensors if it's the Tru-X from Magnaflow. American Muscle has them for $22, if you don't need them you can always return.
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I spoke to American muscle they told me I didn't need extensions. That's why I'm skeptical.
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That's funny, because in their description there's a technical note stating that 04's require the O2 extensions, so either AM is trying to profit off another $22 or their customer service is lacking in knowledge.

I personally haven't installed them but I think it depends on how the x-pipe was fabricated. The rear sensors simply monitor the cats so not having them isn't the end of the world but they will throw up a DTC code that I'd recommend clearing so that when a real problem arises and throws a code you know.
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Yeap. That's why asked. But he told me if anything the shop I take it should have them.
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How much do those run for?

Around 350$ with eliminators and O2 sensors


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I have magnaflow catted x pipe with 40s. Not loud at all or raspy. About to get O/R X pipe.


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That's funny, because in their description there's a technical note stating that 04's require the O2 extensions, so either AM is trying to profit off another $22 or their customer service is lacking in knowledge.

I personally haven't installed them but I think it depends on how the x-pipe was fabricated. The rear sensors simply monitor the cats so not having them isn't the end of the world but they will throw up a DTC code that I'd recommend clearing so that when a real problem arises and throws a code you know.
What I have always wondered is if the o2 sensors are turned off in the tune can't you just cap it off?

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What I have always wondered is if the o2 sensors are turned off in the tune can't you just cap it off?

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Is that what mil eliminators are? Just little bolts that go in there?

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o/r h pipe too loud?

Noticed this today. It's only on one of the mufflers on the inlet.how long can it last me. I was going to the shop tommorrow to get them installed. Is it really bad or normal?Click image for larger version

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Nothing is too loud. I don't even have a cat back exhaust haha. Theres nothing there. Saves weight! Just don't go WOT in the middle of town. You shouldn't really do that anyways imo
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