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Old 01-15-2015, 08:06 PM   #1
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I've had my gt for about 5 months now and I've been thinking about changing the cluster. But my question is. Is this cluster the oem for the 04 gt. Or is it aftermarket ? A mecanic told me it was aftermarket which Jo of worries me now because I might have been lied to about the mileage.

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That's an aftermarket. However. It's very hard to change mileage now a days. I highly doubt it was altered.


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It is probably a cluster face with a glow kit


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It's an 04 tho but yea maybe it just a skin? And not the how cluster


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That's just the reverse glow kit, basically a gauge face that goes over the stock one and changes the light bulbs. Aftermarket gauge clusters usually run in the $400 plus ramge. That I know of there is only the Autometer kit and that has been discontinued
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That's just the reverse glow kit, basically a gauge face that goes over the stock one and changes the light bulbs. Aftermarket gauge clusters usually run in the $400 plus ramge. That I know of there is only the Autometer kit and that has been discontinued
Yep. the mileage is still the stock green. its just an insert and new bulbs behind it. they sold it on american muscle. i think it recently got clearanced out. and like someone else above said, the ecu stores the mileage, the gauges dont. not anymore anyway.
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So even if the cluster had been changed it would display the same miles?


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nope. i was wrong. its stored in the gauges. just read about it on another forum. a dealership apparently sends em out to be worked on somewhere "official" for legality reasons.

so... im assuming some scumbag could save he gauges out of a wrecked 04, hold it for years, and then swap his out before he sells his high mile car? that would suck.
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Yeap that's what I was worried about


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79k on an 04 isn't hard to believe though. unless you got it for less than $5k. How does it run?

But everything around the gauge cluster looks stock, the inserts are an easy mod. I almost got one myself for 36 bucks in december from american muscle.
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04 cluster??

I got for 8900 . Yea everything is stock and I just replaced factory clutch, starter and alternator . And the pinion seal was leaking recently so I'm assuming it should be around that mileage

And yea it runs great


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sounds like 79k. i can tell you now though all you gotta worry about up to 150k is some calipers, a coil, shocks if theyre still stock, and regular maintainence. I may be on a stock starter, dont know for sure. alternators been changed.oh yea and ball joints and outer tie rods. all this i changed around 139k when i got it.
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Yea the mechanic who installed my x pipe last week told me I over paid lol


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Yea but a lot of people do. I paid 5k for mine.

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Yea I find mine at a good deal. Black leather interior with in mint condition so was exterior. It was a debate for me either a g35 or the gt at the dealership I bought it from.

As soon as I heard it startup.

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How can I remove the white overlay?


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You pull the cluster and pull the clear cover off and peel them off and hope they are just overlays. I hate black face gauges and always remove them personally.


Those are white face reverse glow rice gauges, GTs never had white faces so that is a dead give away. As far as mileage, that is indeed stored in the cluster starting in 1999. For 98-down, rolling back the mileage takes 15 minutes. For the electronic ones, its much more of a PITA.
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You pull the cluster and pull the clear cover off and peel them off and hope they are just overlays. I hate black face gauges and always remove them personally.


Those are white face reverse glow rice gauges, GTs never had white faces so that is a dead give away. As far as mileage, that is indeed stored in the cluster starting in 1999. For 98-down, rolling back the mileage takes 15 minutes. For the electronic ones, its much more of a PITA.

Ok cool. I'm going to try on Sunday I hate that white overlay. I rather have the reigular stock one


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There is a good chance the stock black ones are underneath but maybe not. When I did my MAC whitefaces on my 98 I removed them.
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That's a stock cluster for sure. Just had the overlay. I work for Ford in the parts department. Getting remain cluster from Ford requires a online 1878 forum to be filled out. Then the company sends out the cluster with the correct mileage for the vehicle. The F-series clusters are the most common ones I do orders for.
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That's a stock cluster for sure. Just had the overlay. I work for Ford in the parts department. Getting remain cluster from Ford requires a online 1878 forum to be filled out. Then the company sends out the cluster with the correct mileage for the vehicle. The F-series clusters are the most common ones I do orders for.
thats good to know. do you happen to know the going rate for replacing gauges? and if trading in your busted gauges for a new one for a diy job a possibility? or do they usually have to do the service?
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thats good to know. do you happen to know the going rate for replacing gauges? and if trading in your busted gauges for a new one for a diy job a possibility? or do they usually have to do the service?
Not sure about the Mustang. But F-series range from $300-$850 depending on model.
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If the guages all work there is no reason to replace them. If the black faces underneath are gone you can try to carefully remove the stock black faces from another cluster from a JY... or just get a set of white faces that isn't all ricey. The MACs I had in my 98 fooled more than a few ppl into thinking it was a Cobra cluster since they look OEM.

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Looks better to me. Was is tough to get off??

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That looks a THOUSAND times better. Reverse glow gauges are complete rice and half of them have all kinds of tacky *** numbers/markings on them too. I'd imagine they just came right off, they usually are just held down on the edges.
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Looks better to me. Was is tough to get off??

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Piece of cake. Although the cables that turn the lights off were a bit complicated to remove. I'm a bit worried that I might have cut a few wires I wasn't suppose to to completely remove it. Asshat of the previous owner zip tied all the wires in there.

But yea I hated that white glow ricey *** heck. A thousand times better now and actually fits in and matches with the interior.


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Very nice, when I get my new edge I'm thinking about a bullitt/mach1 instrument cluster swap, part of my special one off. But one the new edge clusters I think black gauges look better than the white faced...


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Yeap. The redline is finally correct. And all this time the needles were out of alignment. So I a killed a few birds with one stone.


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That's good I hate it when gauges are inaccurate, my challengers speedo was very optimistic when I drove it a while back, realistically I'm doing 55mph and its saying 120mph. But the car was drag raced so maybe someone changed out the gears and later on switched it again and never adjusted the gauge...


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You can always verify the RPM and speedo via the digital readout. You can set it to where it displays all that info which is invaluable for doing gauge face swaps. I like white faces myself, but only OEM or ones that do a good job of mimicking OEM.
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What's the difference between gt and bullit/ mach clusters?


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The Bullitt and Mach clusters have a retro look to them. You can just google image search them and see for yourself.
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04 cluster??

Yea they look pretty good.Didn't know it was different


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Yeah and the Cobras obviously came with the white faces. The Termis had a boost gauge too.
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