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Old 02-03-2015, 12:15 PM   #1
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Which torque arm/panhard bar?

Im about to buy a mm torque arm and panhard bar and they have several diff ones, would a standard ta do or should i get the heavy duty one? Also would i run into any clearance issues with the heavy duty one like it hitting exhaust..ect?


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I am in he same boat. The standard is good until Nearly 500 or so LB Tq at the wheels.


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What are you using the car for?

I have the standard duty TA on my car and it works just fine. I don't plan on putting down major power on hard launches though.


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Its gonna be a 5-700 hp street car i wanna be able to drive it and it handle good on the street, throw some rubbers on and do some hard launches, granted that hp level wont be reached for some time right now it only have 400 at the rear, prolly be a few years before im ready to up the boost and turn it up


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How's it at 400 to the wheels? Like what power adder or such. Since they deliver power differently that can affect it also. And what gears are you running?


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Old 02-03-2015, 04:19 PM   #6
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If you're shooting for those numbers you'd probably better get the heavy duty one. Check this chart provided by MM FAQ
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/te...r_susp_ta.aspx


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Like I said. I'm in the same boat. I am pretty sure I'm just going to go with the standard duty though


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I honestly don't see how the standard duty can break anyway lol. I have the standard duty and it is beefy


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Which torque arm/panhard bar?

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How's it at 400 to the wheels? Like what power adder or such. Since they deliver power differently that can affect it also. And what gears are you running?


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Its got the vortech kit on it, its a stick car with 3.73 rear gears
And a ls swap with a turbo might be in the far far far future when i get bored with the 700 ( which wont come for a while itself but i know u always get bored of the power level after a while lol)


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Which torque arm/panhard bar?

I seen the chart from MM before posting but im concerned if the heavy duty is gonna have interference issues with exhaust i will shell out the extra cash for the heavy duty if it not gonna be a pain to install more so then the reg one, also is the heavy duty and standard duty look and attach/install the same? I just wanna know the differences in the 2 besides stronger/beefy material
And soccer can u take a pic of urs like where it attaches to the car and the rear end ( i think i know how it attaches but id like to see it on a car installed already)


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Old 02-03-2015, 07:26 PM   #11
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The HD one has another point that it attaches to the frame I believe. The standard one looks relatively easy to install just have to drill a few holes. Welding the torque arm crossmember is optional I read


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Old 02-03-2015, 11:43 PM   #12
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Ya but i think i remember reading that the hd one sometimes has interference issues with the exhaust but i may be wrong


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Which torque arm/panhard bar?

The TA is relatively easy to install. It has the 4 hangers that go around the axle. Then 4 bolts that go into where the dog bone is on the bottom of the axle. Then it extends forward to a crossmember that has 4 mounting points onto the subframe connectors which are welded on (weld in subframe connectors are required). The crossmember has no way of mounting on other than welding it.

I'll try to find some pictures. I have some on Instagram.


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Which torque arm/panhard bar?

The TA near the crossmember does bump my exhaust at times. It's the exhaust flanges, it's super tight clearance to the flanges.

Look at the pics and you can see we had to grind down the flanges a little during install.


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Old 02-04-2015, 08:25 AM   #17
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Ok so let me get clear here, the ta and panhard bar does away with the upper control arms? So the battle boxes im about to install i really dont need to do the upper ones only the lower control arm battle boxes?


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Its got the vortech kit on it, its a stick car with 3.73 rear gears
And a ls swap with a turbo might be in the far far far future when i get bored with the 700 ( which wont come for a while itself but i know u always get bored of the power level after a while lol)


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Ok so let me get clear here, the ta and panhard bar does away with the upper control arms? So the battle boxes im about to install i really dont need to do the upper ones only the lower control arm battle boxes?


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Old 02-04-2015, 11:56 AM   #20
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So all out honesty do u think i should just get the standard duty ta or the heavy duty one? Im not gonna be at the strip every weekend but i do like to go to the strip and beat on it some with some slicks


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Standard duty should be fine


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Ok kool, i just bought the standard duty one, i doubt ill be planting over 400 whp on takeoff even when the car is at 700 lol and the kit with panhard bar was $60 cheaper on ebay versus straight off MM site.....


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Just a question , the mouting tabs for the kmember have to be welded on the ta,... I have no welder so how would i go about doing that, like mock up where they need to be and trace it then take the mounting tabs and my car to a shop and let them weld it? Cuz it replaces upper control arms but ima need them to drive it to a shop


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The mounting tabs and crossember weld onto the subframe connectors... And yes it has to be welded.

It'll be tricky what to do, i wouldn't just clamp it on, definitely wouldn't make the ride like that. Maybe find someone that has a welder because they are pretty easy to move from place to place.

Or actually looking at my pic again... Mock everything up, clamp them down hard, but leave the entire torque arm assembly at home. If you get them right to where they need to be you can just take everything off and you will be able to transport the car... You can leave one UCA in and drive it there, thats fine.
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Ya the kmember to to ta that has the tabs to weld onto the subframe connectors is what i meant, so i could limp it to the shop and back home with only one upper control arm? Once the tabs are in place i could go foward with the install but its getting to the shop to weld them and back home is what i would be worried about... Plus whoever welds it needs to be good because that kmember is gonna be under alot of force right? I hope my subframe connecors are good enough i have the rectangular ones that weld on and they also bolt under the car under the seat ( actually use the seat mounting holes to bolt on) but they are also welded to the car where as well i think they are by SR but im having a hard time remembering


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Yea, if you can get the 4 tabs in perfect place where you want them you can take everything else apart and keep the tabs there to have them welded.... So you will want to mock everything up so you know it fits right, clamp the tabs down pretty damn hard.. Maybe even sharpie the edges of them so you know if they move, then take it to a shop and have them weld it.

And yes you can drive the car just fine with 1 upper control arm... Thats what people actually do when they want a 3 link but not the torque arm.

I think you keep throwing me off when you say K member.... The K member is what your engine sits on, the black part for the tabs is the "Crossmember".

And honestly i'd ditch those subframe connectors and get a good set like Maximum Motorsports or Steeda, the ones you are describing i don't think will last very long.
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