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Old 02-07-2015, 06:59 PM   #36
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Everyone in this thread is saying a tune. What's the point of asking for advice if you don't take it? Lol


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Everyone in this thread is saying a tune. What's the point of asking for advice if you don't take it? Lol


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Because somebody was reccomending to get a tune last lol

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A tune comes after all bolt ons so you can tie them all together

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It entirely depends on what kind of tune. If your getting a dyno tune then yeah it makes sense to do exhaust (assuming your not removing cats), intake, etc before you tune so you dont have to pay for another dyno tune. But if you go with Bama or somewhere that has free tunes for life or cheap retunes it really doesnt matter. You will see some gains stock with just a tune. And then as you add things you can just get a new tune update free.
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Fine, il get a tuner. Guess I gotta start some where! But I keep seeing people say bama, but then on the other side they say not. What was the wrong withy bama before?...


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Everyone in this thread is saying a tune. What's the point of asking for advice if you don't take it? Lol


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I just keep seeing a lot of people tell me to get one tuner then another tuner. Bama, sct, ortiz, etc...


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BAMA
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Those are all good options.

My BAMA tune has been good to me. And they changed head tuners recently also and he is actually pretty good.


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BAMA
Steeda
MPT

Those are all good options.

My BAMA tune has been good to me. And they changed head tuners recently also and he is actually pretty good.


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Is it pretty explanatory how to use it, etc...I don't know much on how to use em. Still a noob


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BAMA
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Those are all good options.

My BAMA tune has been good to me. And they changed head tuners recently also and he is actually pretty good.


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Plus free tunes for life! That's a +


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One thing to remember with a mail order tune is that they dont have your exact car on a dyno to see how it performs. Therefore it leaves the possibility that something may go wrong with the tune and it may take some data logging back and forth to fix. I think that is why you see bad things with just about every mail order tune company because they expect it to be perfect out of the box. And while most people do not have major issues occasionally it does happen to where people have idle issues or other things like that.
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One thing to remember with a mail order tune is that they dont have your exact car on a dyno to see how it performs. Therefore it leaves the possibility that something may go wrong with the tune and it may take some data logging back and forth to fix. I think that is why you see bad things with just about every mail order tune company because they expect it to be perfect out of the box. And while most people do not have major issues occasionally it does happen to where people have idle issues or other things like that.

Data logs.

Doing a data log on the street will give better information in the logs than it would when the car is stationary with a huge fan blowing in front of it.


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Well I'm gonna say get a mid pipe. You'll add horsepower and it will sound a hell of a lot better. Id look on corral or Craigslist and try to save money on a used one then spend the left over money on something else.
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Data logs.

Doing a data log on the street will give better information in the logs than it would when the car is stationary with a huge fan blowing in front of it.


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Man I've heard a lot about data logging. Idk how to do it


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Type "how to datalog" into Google.


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I may be wrong, but to data log you're gonna need a programmer. Then you'll have to spend money on the dyno tune. So keep that in mind.

Whatever you do, I wouldn't go out and buy a high dollar cai.
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Type "how to datalog" into Google.


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So do I buy a datalog? Or go to a shop and do it


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If you buy the SCT X4 with your choice of tuner ie MPT bama steeda or others your X4 will have a little program you can install on your laptop that's called live link. You plug in your tuner to your car and the tuner into the laptop and run live link on the parameters the tuner wants to see. Then you email them the parameters and they adjust your tunes accordingly. It's simple. Your tuner will send you the parameters they want to see. Usually it's fuel and spark across certain rpm ranges. And usually you have to drive normally for about 30 minutes.


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If you buy the SCT X4 with your choice of tuner ie MPT bama steeda or others your X4 will have a little program you can install on your laptop that's called live link. You plug in your tuner to your car and the tuner into the laptop and run live link on the parameters the tuner wants to see. Then you email them the parameters and they adjust your tunes accordingly. It's simple. Your tuner will send you the parameters they want to see. Usually it's fuel and spark across certain rpm ranges. And usually you have to drive normally for about 30 minutes.


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Yep. With MPT I have. Also you posted that your tires are bald. I'd do the tires with the money. And why I would is safety. Plain and simple.


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I may be wrong, but to data log you're gonna need a programmer. Then you'll have to spend money on the dyno tune. So keep that in mind.

Whatever you do, I wouldn't go out and buy a high dollar cai.
All you need to data log is the tuning device which you will need no matter what, and a lap top.


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All you need to data log is the tuning device which you will need no matter what, and a lap top.


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Tuning device=programmer cost+tune cost. Lol

And as the guy above said if you have bald tires replace them.
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Tuning device=programmer cost+tune cost. Lol



And as the guy above said if you have bald tires replace them.

Errr not really. 90% of places that sell tuning devices also sell tunes for them and you get tunes when you buy the device. Only way you would have to pay twice is if you buy say a tuner from AM and then take it to a dyno tune shop. You get the device + the tunes for the same cost, and then datalog and get the tunes updated for free.

And there is no need to dyno tune a stock car. Email tunes will be fine.


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Errr not really. 90% of places that sell tuning devices also sell tunes for them and you get tunes when you buy the device. Only way you would have to pay twice is if you buy say a tuner from AM and then take it to a dyno tune shop. You get the device + the tunes for the same cost, and then datalog and get the tunes updated for free.

And there is no need to dyno tune a stock car. Email tunes will be fine.


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Well, I myself have an sct programmer with Bama tunes and I felt more of a difference when i installed a bbk off road x pipe. I can't see there being much of a gain with a tune on basically a stock car. And I agree, I would never pay for a dyno tune on a car without at least cams.

I'm going with personal experience here and I say get a mid pipe if youve already replaced tires.
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The tune was the very first performance mod I did. I definitely felt a difference with it.

When I had to smog my car I put my stock exhaust on and put the tune to stock and it definitely did feel more sluggish.

The throttle response with the race tune I run is amazing. Really torquey.


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Here's one I haven't seen anyone throw out there...

Is your car lowered? Pick up some lowering springs and drop that s.o.b.!
Hell do the install yourself and you'll have enough left over for some tubular upper/lower control arms or an offroad midpipe.

I wish I would've made lowering my first car the 1st or 2nd mod instead of the 10th. They look sooo much better dropped. Definitely am not making that mistake with the Mach.
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My dads getting me tires, so no expenses are coming from me! But all I need is the bama or sct tuner and a laptop and I can data log it correct?


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My dads getting me tires, so no expenses are coming from me! But all I need is the bama or sct tuner and a laptop and I can data log it correct?


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Yep and if you need,to datalog they will probably send an email with links to download stuff and instructions

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You 98% most likely won't need to datalog. So just run their tunes as they are until you get other upgrades. Don't worry about the laptop till you get cams or something.


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Yep and if you need,to datalog they will probably send an email with links to download stuff and instructions

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I hope. Il go with bama tunes simply cause they offer tunes for life for free. So they will send me an email?


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You will buy the tuner get a confirmation email and then you will get an email when they start programmingyour tune and then another when it is done and shipped out. You can respond to any of the bama emails with any question and they will be glad to help

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Problem with bama they only put 25 or 21 degrees of timing (I forgot) in the motor when they can run 30 and the air and fuel is going to be off at wot. When I installed my wideband my bama tune a/f was 10.0 when I installed Ortiz tune he put 30 degrees of timing in the car, and adjusted a/f to 13.2 which made a very big difference in the car. Pulled harder and got better gas mileage with Ortiz tune.


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I've seen cars with cams with canned tunes like bama and people blow out fuel out the exhaust and throw a rod threw the engine. But with a stock cam and head car, a car with just intake, tb/pl, full exhaust I mean it's okay yes better than stock but it's not the best out there at all. Now idk much about Bamas new tuning guy but he looks to be better than the old bama tuner.


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Just take our word for it and tune the god damn thing

Steeda is my preferred life time tunes of choice, Bama is alright. I'm now with MPT.

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Ortiz is another good option. Really down to earth guy. He cares more about making you happy with the tune than he cares about the money. He has been super busy lately though since he closed shop and got into the oil field, but i believe he still does tunes.


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I'm curious. Has anyone ever done a before dyno pull, then installed the canned tune, and do another dyno pull to see if you've actually gained anything.
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I'm curious. Has anyone ever done a before dyno pull, then installed the canned tune, and do another dyno pull to see if you've actually gained anything.
That sounds like a waste of money

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Maybe, I'm being too cautious, but I would first take care of a lot of routine maintenance that probably hasn't been done such as changing: PVC valve, fuel filter, Trans and diff fluids, air filter, coolant, brake fluid, oil/filter, air filter, maybe the COP boots, spark plugs, thermostat, wiper blades and spare tire. I'd first do the things that ensure I have a dependable ride.





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