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Old 03-03-2015, 05:13 PM   #1
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Will i get 310rwhp with this combo

Hello everyone
I have complete my full NA setup on my 04GT

Here are the parts which ive installed

Steeda UDP
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BBK 75mm TB
Trickflow 75mm plenum
Comp cams stage 2 268H
With comp cams springs and retainers
BBK LONGTUBE headers
BBK catted H pipe
Borla stinger s type catback
Spec stage 1 clutch flywheel
SVE custome tune with SCT x4 specially for these mods from latemodelrestoration
Mishimoto radiator
Mishimoto thermo
And eibach suspension handlingpack
With nt555R 315s with 35mm spacer at the back on 10.5inch rims
And 245s with 35mm spacers in front on 17x9 rim

Intake manifold is stock PI
And heads are stock PI
Will i be able to hit 300plus whp with these mods or shall i add trickflow heads 38cc?

The car has only 30,000miles on it engine is good condition



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Intake and heads then maybe, also go to a one piece driveshaft, if you haven't already...


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from everything people say on this forum, sounds like a good 310 at the wheels.
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Driveshaft i will order this may from Americanmuscle
And all i want to know is will i need to purchase trickflow heads to make it 300whp or with these pi heads will my car be able to hit 300hp



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Hello everyone
I have complete my full NA setup on my 04GT

Here are the parts which ive installed

Steeda UDP
Steeda CAI
BBK 75mm TB
Trickflow 75mm plenum
Comp cams stage 2 268H
BBK LONGTUBE headers
BBK catted H pipe
SVE custome tune with SCT x4

Intake manifold is stock PI
And heads are stock PI
If your asking about power just leave the suspension parts out so its easier to see what real mods you have. Suspension, wheels, tires, and supporting mods like the cam gears and the clutch that are needed anyway in no way affects power so its easier to just not list it..

Out of all of that it is doable to hit 310 if you have a really good tune. I don't know how good the SVE tunes are though.... My guess is 300ish.

There is a lot more you can do NA if you really want to crank it up.

5.0 stroker kit
38cc TFS heads
Flat Top Pistons
Deck the heads and block (raises compression)
Bigger cams with notched pistons

With the extra stuff i just listed i'm sure you can easily see 430-450whp NA. You'll need E85 though since you'll be at around a 13.5:1 compression
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im curious to know that myself, but i recall others claiming 300 without upgrading from pi heads, unless it was a non pi head being upgraded.
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im curious to know that myself, but i recall others claiming 300 without upgrading from pi heads, unless it was a non pi head being upgraded.
It is doable to hit 300 with full bolt ons and cams. Thats usually with the CMS stage 2 or Comp Cam stage 2 (which those are)... Most people range from 290-305. Which is why i emphasized how good the tune is. He should see 300, 310 might be a little stretch for whats listed.
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it seems like with this setup 295 to 300hp on the wheels
Thanks everyone alot you guys are great and very helpfull

Soccerluv4 thanks alot i really didnt knew i can hit 400 to 450 NA
I will look forward to what you have listed





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it seems like with this setup 295 to 300hp on the wheels
Thanks everyone alot you guys are great and very helpfull

Soccerluv4 thanks alot i really didnt knew i can hit 400 to 450 NA
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What's the stock hp on it?

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What's the stock hp on it?

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260bhp... Around 225-230whp


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Yea 400-450 rwhp na is not worth it, for the same money u could go boost and have 700+....... 400rwhp can be acheived with just ur basic vortech kit and at that power level stock internals is ok but dont get too hp greedy like 450+ and overstress the internals ... I peiced together my vortech kit for 2100 total including tune....


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260bhp... Around 225-230whp


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I've heard 04 2v came with a little more power from factory. But it was claimed to 260 for insurance. Idk if they guy was serious or to what extent it's true.


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Yea 400-450 rwhp na is not worth it, for the same money u could go boost and have 700+....... 400rwhp can be acheived with just ur basic vortech kit and at that power level stock internals is ok but dont get too hp greedy like 450+ and overstress the internals ... I peiced together my vortech kit for 2100 total including tune....


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It's always nicer to make more Hp just on motor though. But you need a big motor to make high Hp numbers. And if your planning on over 450whp you better get forged internals or it won't last that long. You should be a little above 300whp with that setup on a good tune from a shop, not a mail tune. Do you own a gas station? Lol j/k
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It's always nicer to make more Hp just on motor though. But you need a big motor to make high Hp numbers. And if your planning on over 450whp you better get forged internals or it won't last that long. You should be a little above 300whp with that setup on a good tune from a shop, not a mail tune. Do you own a gas station? Lol j/k

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I am a skeptical person and would rather get hands on and see what the tuner is doing to my car while I'm there with him. Mail tunes aren't bad depending where you get them from but it's always better to take it to a shop and get a dyno tune. How do you know what they are mailing you is good? Because your car is more responsive etc. I'm all for Hp but At the same time I don't want someone tuning my car for higher Hp numbers while cutting corners and not being safe with the tune. You can do a lot to increase performance but sometimes it's at risk of reliability and pushing it to far or to unsafe for my liking. Who knows not saying they do it but yours could be their last mail tune of the day and they want to get home to their family and miss something small that could be catastrophic. And the more heavily modded your car is the better the tuner you should have. They are okay for basic bolt ons but no further than that.
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A good email tune can be just as good or even better than a dyno tune...

The part that matters most is the guy behind the computer. They send out the files, you data log it driving around and then they update the tunes. Exact same stuff that happens on the dyno, except instead you are driving around in real conditions instead of in a shop with your hood up and a fan blowing.


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A good email tune can be just as good or even better than a dyno tune...

The part that matters most is the guy behind the computer. They send out the files, you data log it driving around and then they update the tunes. Exact same stuff that happens on the dyno, except instead you are driving around in real conditions instead of in a shop with your hood up and a fan blowing.


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I agree with the dyno tune not being as realistic.

But for my 335i my ecu went kaboom with a piggyback mail tune.


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A good email tune can be just as good or even better than a dyno tune...

The part that matters most is the guy behind the computer. They send out the files, you data log it driving around and then they update the tunes. Exact same stuff that happens on the dyno, except instead you are driving around in real conditions instead of in a shop with your hood up and a fan blowing.


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I'm not sure what kind of dyno tuner you have locally but my tuner takes his time, wants you there for the tune session and not only dyno tunes it but takes it on the road with you and data logs then puts it back on the dyno and depending where we are and how happy I am with it we will do it all again. Another data log session then back on the dyno if either of us don't like something. My last tune session with him was a little over 5 hours. I don't agree with you. Depends on your tuner.
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I'm not sure what kind of dyno tuner you have locally but my tuner takes his time, wants you there for the tune session and not only dyno tunes it but takes it on the road with you and data logs then puts it back on the dyno. My last tune session with him was a little over 5 hours. I don't agree with you. Depends on your tuner.

The most important factor is the guy behind the computer. Just because they have a dyno doesn't mean they are great.

Have you talked with Alrefire on this site?

After he installed his turbo be went to a dyno tune and they definitely took their time, had it way longer than they should have. And they completely botched the tune. He ended up needing a new motor.....

I'm lucky, in my area we have AED. So I can get a dyno tune from them, but they also do email tunes. So you get damn near the same quality tune from both dyno and email with them since they use the same base files and then use data logs.

Agree or not dyno tunes are being phased out.

Most old school guys prefer dyno tunes still I've noticed. Probably just more accustomed to the idea. But nothing wrong with a *proper* email tune.


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Whoever the hell is saying "get a 1 piece driveshaft" on a 04... please see me after class.


OP should get anywhere from 290-310 to the wheels with that setup. But that's just a number. If it is just 290... who cares, go to the track and get the REAL indicator of how fast you are.
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who cares, go to the track and get the REAL indicator of how fast you are.

Exactly. Aren't we modding to be faster? I'd rather be faster in real life than on paper


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Yup, SO many dyno queens out there. I don't care how much power you make, show me a timeslip either 1/4 or a lap time.

For the OP... there are a few things I personally would have done differently but honestly its a pretty damn good mod list... EXCEPT I'm not sure about that SVE tune. Is it an actual datalogged custom tune or just canned? Like, are they making you drive your car around and send them logs or is it just a one and done tune? If they are not making you drive around and do the datalogging to send back to them, return it and get a REAL tuner. I'm assuming SVE is going to be like Bama in that regard but maybe not.
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SOme people just like building fast motors. Nothing wrong with that.
You just can get some real use out of it if you put it on a track which is usually considered to be cooler.


I think engine building and tuning is an art in itself, so I don't think its too crazy to find enjoyment in just seeing how much power you can make.

What is crazy is thinking that your 1000 peak hp nitrous engine in a bone stock chasis is going to beat a well set up 500 hp all motor car. And basing your ego around that idea
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Yup, SO many dyno queens out there. I don't care how much power you make, show me a timeslip either 1/4 or a lap time.

For the OP... there are a few things I personally would have done differently but honestly its a pretty damn good mod list... EXCEPT I'm not sure about that SVE tune. Is it an actual datalogged custom tune or just canned? Like, are they making you drive your car around and send them logs or is it just a one and done tune? If they are not making you drive around and do the datalogging to send back to them, return it and get a REAL tuner. I'm assuming SVE is going to be like Bama in that regard but maybe not.
I agree I enjoy the build as much as I enjoy my car going fast and there is nothing better then beating someone who is using nitrous for that extra boost with that said I do plan on throwing some on my car once its all built :sly:

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