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Old 03-03-2015, 05:57 PM   #1
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Lowering springs

I want to lower my 97 GT, and I've been researching a lot lately because I finally have the cash to purchase springs. Now, are SR springs any good despite them being cheap? How about the Eibach Sportlines, or H&R Super Sport springs? What would be recommended?

If anyone has before and after pics of any of these products, can you all please post them? That'll be awesome
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The SR springs are good, they give you a 1.5" drop all the way around. I have the H&R Super sports, and I like them, get a little extra drop with them. You will need to get CC plates (only get Maximum Motorpsorts CC plates) and a heavier duty shock and strut set up. A good budget friendly shock/ strut are the Koni STR.T's, and the Tokico HPs.

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This is my car with the H&R SS springs. I did put new poly isolators in when installed Also. I could have got a little more drop if I would have left out the isolaters and wrapped them with something to cut down on squeaks, but I left them in.

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So I absolutely need camber plates, and a shock/strut set?
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you don't necessarily need shocks and struts at the moment although highly recommended. You definitely need CC plates though or your tires will wear unevenly.
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What do they do? Not very familiar with suspension...
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Lowering it will make your tires do this / \ . While your tires with stock springs look like this | |
Your tires while lowered and with no CC plates will have bad negative camber and ware out the inside of the tire fast.


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Oh ok that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification. I just want my car lowered so it can look aggressive, and so it doesn't look like a 4x4
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assuming you mean CC (Caster Camber) Plates.. They basically control how much Caster and Camber your car has I'll attach a diagram explaining camber. Basically when you lower your car, your wheels will want to slant in (negative camber) like all the slammed tuner cars you've probably seen. What the plates do is just correct that so you have zero camber and dont blow through tires

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Lowering it will make your tires do this / \ . While your tires with stock springs look like this | |
Your tires while lowered and with no CC plates will have bad negative camber and ware out the inside of the tire fast.
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Oh ok that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification. I just want my car lowered so it can look aggressive, and so it doesn't look like a 4x4

You could always go coilovers
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Haha sorry I'm tired and didn't wanna search google for pictures lol


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Haha yours was much simpler in the end Also yeah I'd recommend coilovers to the OP unless you're like me and cringe buying a $60 chin spoiler
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Haha yours was much simpler in the end Also yeah I'd recommend coilovers to the OP unless you're like me and cringe buying a $60 chin spoiler

Haha and I'm over here trying to convince my wife that big brake kits are a necessity! And they're on sale....... Cmon now
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Haha and I'm over here trying to convince my wife that big brake kits are a necessity! And they're on sale....... Cmon now
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Ironically, I'm 17 as well. Coilovers are way out of my spending range ):
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Ironically, I'm 17 as well. Coilovers are way out of my spending range ):
ya then definitely go with SR springs and MM CC plates
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I agree with the MM CC plates. I use those on my car along with my MM Coilovers


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CC plates are only needed after like an inch or more of lowering.

And I think you may need to get an alignment first. Not to sure


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You can get away without the CC plates if you stick with the SR springs. 1.5 is the Max from what I have read to not need CC plates, Plates are recommended but you can use camber bolts and a good alignment tech can get it to spec or very close so don't chew up your tires. Camber bolts from eibach are on the American muscle sight. They will be a cheaper option if you don't go lower than 1.5" from stock height. I have Also heard of guys using fox body struts and shocks instead of going with a heavy duty set up. I'm not sure of the model they used but I'm sure Google will tell you some things about that. Doing those things will save you some money for sure as you can get KYB brand fox struts and shocks fairly cheap. Depending on how many miles you have on your car now you may be able to get away with not changing the shocks and struts right away but it will cause them to wear out very quickly. There are ways to do it cheaper just research which fox shocks and struts people use to do it this way. Doing it this way you won't have as good as performance but it will work. Also check out the raceland brand coilovers, you may be surprised by the price of the kit, It's under 500 I think. But you would absolutely need CC plates with that set up and may need to roll your fenders depending on how low you adjust them. Wish I would have tried the racelands as I would have spent about the same amount doing those and I would be lower than I am now.

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All this talk of cc plates reminds me that I need to get my for sale ad up for mine...

OP if you go with the SR springs you might be able to get away with camber bolts, I didn't have any camber wear on my car when it was lowered 1.5", but if you go with the H&R SS springs I would go for the caster/camber plates as well.

As far as looks go, I'm a fan of the lower the better and am partial to the H&R springs.
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If you lower, get CC plates, stop trying to cut corners and save a little money now and then have to buy new tires in 6 months.

The SR springs are good from what I hear. DO NOT buy the SR CC plates, only MM. Tokico Illuminas are good to pair with them, you don't need coilovers unless you need the adjustability honestly.

From personal experience, HR springs are good and surprisingly... BBK springs worked REALLY well on my last car paired with the Tokicos. Very close to stock suspension feel and lowered 1.5" all around. Having thicker sidewalls than the 315/35/17s that half the ppl run out back on aftermarket rims helped too.
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If you lower, get CC plates, stop trying to cut corners and save a little money now and then have to buy new tires in 6 months.

The SR springs are good from what I hear. DO NOT buy the SR CC plates, only MM. Tokico Illuminas are good to pair with them, you don't need coilovers unless you need the adjustability honestly.

From personal experience, HR springs are good and surprisingly... BBK springs worked REALLY well on my last car paired with the Tokicos. Very close to stock suspension feel and lowered 1.5" all around. Having thicker sidewalls than the 315/35/17s that half the ppl run out back on aftermarket rims helped too.

What about sr springs?


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What's wrong with the SR CC?


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I dont think anythings wrong with them. The MM ones are just the more renowned option.


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Nothing is really wrong with SR CC plates. MM's set is a 4 bolt design and has more room of motion for adjustability and strength. I had them in my car for over a year now and haven't had issues until I installed coilovers and drove the car a bit more then normal daily use. If you plan on just dailying the car they are fine just upgrade the washers on them is my only advice when installing them.


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I had a set of SR CC plates. They were absolutely terrible, noisy etc. Maybe I just got a bad set, AM took them back and sent me the MM ones for 60 bucks more or Whatever it was at the time. The guy at AM didn't even recommend the SR ones as he said they have a lot of issues with them and them being noisy. The MM ones are like night and day verse the SR units. If you get them don't mess around and buy MM only.

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All this talk of cc plates reminds me that I need to get my for sale ad up for mine...

OP if you go with the SR springs you might be able to get away with camber bolts, I didn't have any camber wear on my car when it was lowered 1.5", but if you go with the H&R SS springs I would go for the caster/camber plates as well.

As far as looks go, I'm a fan of the lower the better and am partial to the H&R springs.
So u have CC plates for sale?

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For a critical safety suspension item like CC plates... do you really want a cheap chinese and proven to be unreliable piece or do you want the best? Is $60 worth getting into a wreck because one let go?

For CC plates, get MM or just don't lower your car, period.
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So u have CC plates for sale?

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For a critical safety suspension item like CC plates... do you really want a cheap chinese and proven to be unreliable piece or do you want the best? Is $60 worth getting into a wreck because one let go?

For CC plates, get MM or just don't lower your car, period.
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Anyone have before and after pics of your springs?
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I'll see if I can dig up my old pictures.

H&R Race springs 1.5" drop
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I'm guessing they're not MM's?

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