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Old 03-15-2015, 02:47 AM   #1
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Exhaust is finally done. What should I do next? I'll worry about suspension when I'm out of school. But any suggestion?


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What do you currently have done to it


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Slp catback, bassani off road x pipe. That's about it😳

Lol sorry that's not much it's tough where I'm at, hard to get hours and play sports while doing high school!


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Never can go wrong with a CAI and a tune!


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questioning on that one! But I haven't researched any intakes or tunes closely. I know JLT is really good, but I've been told my car wouldn't run good because of JLTs diameter being so wide a lot of air would go through.

I was considering bama since they have free tunes for life and they got the new tuner. But I really want ortiz. I tried contacting them. It's really hard to.


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I'd say a plenum and TB to take advantage of the new exhaust flow


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Can't go wrong with any of the above listed mods. I would personally get a throttle body and intake plenum at this point. Also 3.73 gears or 4.10 gears would be a good idea. Since exhaust is going unrestricted now it's time for more air flow.
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Gears and a DYNO tune.
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Gears and a DYNO tune.

May do tb/plenum. Is it tough to take the stock one out? Also tricklflow/accufab good brands?


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---------- Post added at 03:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:54 PM ----------

Also how wide?


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It's not hard at all to take apart. Just make sure you torque the bolts holding the plenum on the intake manifold. They are in inch pounds. It's a plastic manifold. If I could do mine over again I'd go 75mm. Summit racing sells a plenum/TB combo. It's made by trick flow and is very affordable. I'd get that if I wouldn't have got the C&L plenum.


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Actually...I may get the MGW shifter before I go on to performance mods. The shifter is terrible.


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Get the mgw. Then gears, trick flow plenum/tb and a MPT tune.

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Get the mgw. Then gears, trick flow plenum/tb and a MPT tune.

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Sounds like the order il do it in! Thanks! Later im going to replace coils, transmission flued, etc.. So that nothing major will happen


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What do you have to keep the CEL off since getting your off road x pipe? I think I'd get a CAI/tuner combo of you find one for sale. Then you could get rid of the CEL (assuming it's on) along with breathing better. Having the tuner already, then you won't have to get one to correct your speedo when you condor the gears.

I waited later to do a short shifter on mine. I mean, it's not like your jamming gears everywhere you go, so it wasn't at the top of my list. In fact, I only bought mine as soon as o did because it was nearly $100 off because it was a cyber Monday sale lol.

Gears is always going to be the most bang for your buck. Constant enjoyment in every gear and at every intersection lol.


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CAI is a waste of money. Tuner will be able to turn off the CEL for an offroad pipe but won't be able to turn off any cops who decide to write you a fix it ticket so you might want to go catted if you live in a state with cops like that although it is actually a federal crime to remove them no matter what the state emissions laws are.

As far as the shifter, if you have a 00-down car you should have one simply as a longevity/durability item as the T5 and T45 did not come with internal stops like the 3650 and can mess up shift forks if you shift too hard with the stocker. As far as just having it... the stock shifter really does suck and having a nice aftermarket unit in there just makes driving overall more enjoyable. For gears just go 4.10s or even 4.30s and roll.
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CAI is a waste of money. Tuner will be able to turn off the CEL for an offroad pipe but won't be able to turn off any cops who decide to write you a fix it ticket so you might want to go catted if you live in a state with cops like that although it is actually a federal crime to remove them no matter what the state emissions laws are.

As far as the shifter, if you have a 00-down car you should have one simply as a longevity/durability item as the T5 and T45 did not come with internal stops like the 3650 and can mess up shift forks if you shift too hard with the stocker. As far as just having it... the stock shifter really does suck and having a nice aftermarket unit in there just makes driving overall more enjoyable. For gears just go 4.10s or even 4.30s and roll.

I have mil eliminators. And my tranny is the 3650. I'm doing MGW shifter. Then plenum/tb!


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Someone has probably told you like 10 times on this forum (proably me lol) but make damn sure you do a good drain and fill on that 3650 if you haven't already with the factory corrected fill quantity.
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CAI wont do diddly squat besides make a cool induction noise.


Save your money for a real mod if you car about performance, get some gears if you wanna have more fun. Maybe a dyno tune if you want to squeeze the most power out of your exhaust improvements.


Exhaust actually matters and will affect power especially if you get it tuned.. Intake barely will do anything but make it sound cooler
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:19 PM   #19
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Someone has probably told you like 10 times on this forum (proably me lol) but make damn sure you do a good drain and fill on that 3650 if you haven't already with the factory corrected fill quantity.

What tranny fluid should I use? How much? I need to know EVERYTHING


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Pennzoil Synchromesh (yellow bottles at Autozone) and 3.2 quarts. Drain plug is on the bottom of the 3650, you fill by pulling the shifter and dumping in 3.2 quarts. Way easier than trying to fill from the side port. Also makes measuring really easy. Dump in 3 quarts and then fill one of the now empty bottles to right under 1/4 full and dump that in. Done.
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Pennzoil Synchromesh (yellow bottles at Autozone) and 3.2 quarts. Drain plug is on the bottom of the 3650, you fill by pulling the shifter and dumping in 3.2 quarts. Way easier than trying to fill from the side port. Also makes measuring really easy. Dump in 3 quarts and then fill one of the now empty bottles to right under 1/4 full and dump that in. Done.

Should I drain this fluid asap?


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I would seeing as if it is the original 3.8 quart fill that is too much fluid and also, correct automotive practice is that when you buy a used car one of the first if not THE first things you do is to change every fluid in it.
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I would seeing as if it is the original 3.8 quart fill that is too much fluid and also, correct automotive practice is that when you buy a used car one of the first if not THE first things you do is to change every fluid in it.

Hmm... I shall look into this. Thank you!


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For this model a throttle body spacer and a CAI would be sweet. I can say a tune would be the best investment being that your in HS and all. These model dont respond as well to tunes.
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For this model a throttle body spacer and a CAI would be sweet. I can say a tune would be the best investment being that your in HS and all. These model dont respond as well to tunes.

I may do bama..


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The TB spacers are a waste of money. Gears, TB and plenum, suspension and a tune will get you a long way.


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The TB spacers are a waste of money. Gears, TB and plenum, suspension and a tune will get you a long way.


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I may go 75mm on it..but I'm not sure...don't want to much air


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I went 70. I wish I would have gone 75.


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For this model a throttle body spacer and a CAI would be sweet. I can say a tune would be the best investment being that your in HS and all. These model dont respond as well to tunes.
TB spacer and CAI are a waste of money at this level. TB spacer is a waste of money pretty much period...

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Do MPT.

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The TB spacers are a waste of money. Gears, TB and plenum, suspension and a tune will get you a long way.


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You forgot exhaust but agreed. And by exhaust I mean mid pipe/catback as the 96-04 stock manifolds flow just as well as a legit set of shorty headers. Its not like 95-down when the stock headers looked like they got chewed up and spit out and then put on the car.

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75mm is the way to go, the PI intake does a real good job keeping the velocity up. TFS makes the best bang for the buck plenum/TB but I keep hearing the Summit Racing brand is a generic TFS set. Which would rock as its a lot cheaper.
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Gears will do SO much more for your car than a tune will..


Gears = night and day different power delivery


Tune = doesn't do ****, you have to pretend your car is actually faster (unless you have a heavily modded car, that is.)
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Yea I forgot to include exhaust in that list.


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Gears will do SO much more for your car than a tune will..


Gears = night and day different power delivery


Tune = doesn't do ****, you have to pretend your car is actually faster (unless you have a heavily modded car, that is.)
No... you can definitely tell from stock to when your tune is loaded, especially an auto.
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Gears will do SO much more for your car than a tune will..


Gears = night and day different power delivery


Tune = doesn't do ****, you have to pretend your car is actually faster (unless you have a heavily modded car, that is.)

Says the person who doesn't have a tuned car.
The tune was what I noticed the most...


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you wont get too much air from a throttle body. Its not like a carb where you have to have a certain amount of air velocity to keep the boosters primed. Your ECU is not gonna have a problem compensating for a tb
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you wont get too much air from a throttle body. Its not like a carb where you have to have a certain amount of air velocity to keep the boosters primed. Your ECU is not gonna have a problem compensating for a tb
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