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Old 04-06-2015, 06:45 PM   #36
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Nice, didn't know they offer a military discount. And I know this is easy to say because it is not my money... but if you can swing it, get the intercooler.
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They offer a military discount?! Wonder if that applies to vets... What kind of discount?


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Forced induction...

Yes they do offer a discount for all military past and present. Also all of their current kits as of 2-25-15 come with an intercooler

It'll be December before I can get enough money saved up for the kit and a couple of tuning sessions at the local dyno. So plenty of time.
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Forced induction...

I tend to agree with Scotty, if you can swing it the intercooler is hugely useful. You can buy it separately later if yoi want the extra 3psi, I think it cost 1100. But it's your build and with the savings you could do suspension upgrades if you haven't already. They never put a pan hard bar on these so the rear suspension walks from side to side and the lower control arms are junk.


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Good on kb!!! I had their first blowzilla on my junkyard refugee 3 in 97/98 it was such a beast. Really gave my texas turbo twin junkyard refugee 2 a run for the money(2 was track only by then 3 was my TS car)

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Very nice vet. Like I said. The new KBs come with an intercooler on all full kits. So I will just do that.


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Forced induction...

Rock on, but seriously how much of discount are they offering for military?

Disregard, didn't look up far enough

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The discount is 5%. Which is 250 on a 5k order. Not too bad.


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The vendor discounts are generally 6% for forums. Like AM's and LRS' (not for this forum but LRS does have a forum discount). The Vortech kit comes in right at $4k for the non-intercooled one with the forum discount. Although I wonder if PowerAdderSolutions does a military discount because their price is already $4k and with free shipping... hmmm... But you want the KB so it is kind of a moot point there.
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That's good point though and can be good info for those wanting to do the vortech kit. I ultimately decided against it just because it is more prominent in the upper rpm range. I spend most of my time cruising and stop and go. So that's where I want my power.


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I'd suggest looking into kenne bell. Call em and ask about the high milage and what too look into. For 5k the will supply you with a 9psi charge cooled kit with all you'll need. It will replace your intake manifold, you'll get a chip to plug into your ECU to program it for safe operation, and I think their boost a pump comes with it but if not I don't think it's required. You'll be putting out around the power limit the engine can safely handle and the power is available at any RPM. Just make sure you run a cooler set of spark plugs to avoid detonation. You will of course have to run 91 or 93 octane though, but thats standard for any boost application. You can probably get it dialed in a bit better for milage and power at a dino tuner but I believe the chip allows you to rock out the second your done with the install.


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I have the 2.1 intercooled kit on my 03 GT and love the set up. I have almost 140,000 miles on my car and it runs great. I haven't dyno'd it yet but I can say it was money well spent. I didn't get the chip because I have a full exhaust set up and they only give the chip on a stock set up. I had mine tuned by SpankinTime in California. Also you will have to upgrade your clutch.

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Ha! That's awesome! I have an auto tranny. So nothing to really upgrade there. Also, I though KB would take into account what you have on the car when they burn a temp tune?


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Ha! That's awesome! I have an auto tranny. So nothing to really upgrade there. Also, I though KB would take into account what you have on the car when they burn a temp tune?


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What yeah there is... get yourscrelf a nice aftermarket converter or have fun ever hooking up. Also you should J-mod your trans if you haven't already. You are a 02 or 03 correct?
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I'm 03 and have a tuned tranny and Jmod done. I didn't think the tranny really needed a new converter...


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I thought so too but when I talked to them they said with the number of mods I had it would be better to have it dyno tuned. They knocked about $150 off the cost since I wouldn't get the chip. They also recommended me to SpakinTime (who was awesome to work with).
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I only know of 2 dyno tuners here in Jacksonville FL. One is a shady mofo and the other is really really expensive. For what the expensive guy wants I can drive to Orlando and have MPT dyno tune it


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SpankinTime did mine over the phone, I told them what all I had done already and he gave me a base tune for about $100 I've been happy enough with it that I haven't changed it. Hoping to get it on a dyno this spring to get some official numbers.
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Interesting. I thought they would have to have more parameters than just an email tune.


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Old 04-09-2015, 06:40 PM   #54
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I'm 03 and have a tuned tranny and Jmod done. I didn't think the tranny really needed a new converter...


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Interesting. I thought they would have to have more parameters than just an email tune.


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I live in Arkansas so he told me that if I could rent a dyno for a day he would work with me to fine tune what he already gave me. The problem for me is the closest reliable dyno is in Tulsa.
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The only things that get retuned are your timing, your A/F, and for automatics the shift points.


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I thought so. But I could do that while data logging and get real world driving for them.


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My tci 3k stall knocked 4tenths off my quarter and dropped my 60 foot from 2.4 to 1.77.....stockish...was my 3rd upgrade after my tune and gears(cai dont count). Just got back from sunday brackets in cincy car steady 12.54 every pass no muss no fuss

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I will probably have to do a torque converter then.


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Yeah it isn't because the stock one isn't durable for power levels that the stock rotating assy can take... its because the stock converter sucks for 1/4 mile runs. Freakshow makes a real good converter for $400-$600 if you don't want to pay $1k+ for a Circle D or a PI Stallion.
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What stall should I look for. Currently I do more highway driving than anything cruising around 2200 rpm. Rarely getting over 3600 rpm.


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Tci makes a good 2400 one call jegs or www.jegs.com they have some 1800-2200 units. First stall converter id suggest a 2400 for you. Let you learn how they work without the steep curve. U should see 3-4tenths over stock. Just make sure u order a locking converter

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Lol yeah the 4R has lockup so you def want a locking converter especially since you'll be on the highway.
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So 2400 lockup huh?


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