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Old 04-13-2015, 09:37 PM   #1
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Speed shops!

Any good speed shops in the Dallas/Fort Worth area? I know there is Speedtek in haltom and Gearheads in Arlington. Anyone have any experiences with them? Thanks.


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Hpp racing in lewisville all the way man!


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HPP blows. And blows alot

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Out of what he asked I'd recommend hpp...gear heads couldn't even aline my drive shaft back correctly after a gear install....as for speedtek, I know my buddy had a simple tune on a 6.0 but that's about it...and if it blows maybe you should recommend something instead of just being negative nancy bruh...I think it depends on what he wants done too


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I plan on stopping by Speedtek to do a dyno run on my 96 gt. their website says they will do three runs for 65 bucks (no tuning). Always wondered what my car is putting down I'm hoping for at least 200hp at the wheels.


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Out of what he asked I'd recommend hpp...gear heads couldn't even aline my drive shaft back correctly after a gear install....as for speedtek, I know my buddy had a simple tune on a 6.0 but that's about it...and if it blows maybe you should recommend something instead of just being negative nancy bruh...I think it depends on what he wants done too


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Ahhhhhhhhh. HPP blows enough said.

I used speedtek back when I lived in Fort Worth and had my roush.

HPP does alot of shady work, don't take my word for it though. Call shaun at AED.

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I'd recommend listening to the ppl on here who are from the area and have built cars, like Rap. Just from personal experience, there are more "speed shops" that will **** your car up than do it right so you need to get as much feedback as you can before taking your car someplace and spending your $$$.


Heck, there is a shop around here that I would not trust to mount a set of rims/tires yet ppl tout them like they are the greatest thing ever. Then they say how much they paid and what parts were used and its like. "wow..." I'm guessing this HPP shop is similar.
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Hpp draws people in with there flash adds etc. And big HP #'s. Etc etc. But the work is shady overpriced and will have you get a lot off stuff you do not need.

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This is back when my 5.0 was 100% stock at speedtek.
They are the ones who I used for my roush. Moved b4 I started getting nutts with the 5.0.



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I'm leaning towards Speedtek since its closest to me. But just for a dyno run no work to be done yet. I'll do more research before I let someone touch it. Thanks for the responses. And I'll post my numbers when I get them.


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Hpp draws people in with there flash adds etc. And big HP #'s. Etc etc. But the work is shady overpriced and will have you get a lot off stuff you do not need.

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Yep, this shop near me called "Big Daddy Performance" () is just like that. Overcharge a ton and the techs I talked to were completely clueless.

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I'm leaning towards Speedtek since its closest to me. But just for a dyno run no work to be done yet. I'll do more research before I let someone touch it. Thanks for the responses. And I'll post my numbers when I get them.


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Those who own the Coyotes claim and backup with timeslips that it takes very little to get these cars into the mid-low 11s.
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I'm leaning towards Speedtek since its closest to me. But just for a dyno run no work to be done yet. I'll do more research before I let someone touch it. Thanks for the responses. And I'll post my numbers when I get them.


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It sounds like you have a stock, non-PI engine car. The first thing that you should do is start shopping around for the parts to swap over to the 99-up Power Improved setup. This consists of swapping the heads, cams, and intake manifold. You will get a nice bump in power and it can be done relatively inexpensively if you hunt around a bit for the components.
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I thought he had a coyote... I would not waste money dynoing a stock npi car. 185/220 to the wheels.

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Yep I got a set of used pi heads and a used pi intake from Craigslist but my car is super old it has around 180k and I'm not sure the bump in compression is healthy for my bottom end. I'm debating between doing the pi heads and intake. Or just swapping pi cams and intake.


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I live south of FTW. Have heard nothing but crap about Gearheads. Speedtek holds good. Dusold in Lewisville. Brenspeed in Cedar Hill. GT44 in Arlington. Dallas Mustang. Diesel Dynamics in Joshua. Go to the Cowtown car meet Union Square tonight (Tuesdays/7:30)(Mk IV Pkwy & I-820) check with the guys who hang there. Lots of rodders and racers).
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Thanks bigmac. Do you guys recommend doing the whole pi swap on a high mileage bottom end. My car doesn't smoke but I know that if it sits idling for a minute than rev the engine you can smell it. Probably rings are worn. I haven't done a compression check on the motor yet either.


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Do a compression and leakdown check on it. If it passes, go nuts.

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Yep! Another thing is I got the heads and intake for $250 wich is a good deal but now I'm wondering if there's something wrong with them. Guy said they were running good when taken off. I might take them to a machine shop to clean them up but not sure how else to check them out.


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Spray it. Spray it

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What everyone's take on doing full pi swap vs just doing pi cams and intake? Is it healthier for the motor since there's no bump in compression?


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The compression bump is not going to hurt a healthy motor. If it does then the motor was about ready to go anyway.



As far as the heads/intake... I personally don't like using used PI intakes. They ALL warp under the tstat housing over time and eventually leak there. Heads should get a quick clean and a valve job. New valvesprings are cheap and couldn't hurt while they are off the motor. Not sure what your budget is for all this.
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I'll probably be doing the work myself. More than anything I wanted to talk to someone from a speed shop so they could answer some concerns I had. You guys are doing a great job by the way.


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Well against popular vote I went and put my old 96 on the dyno. God that thing is slow haha. Almost embarrassed to put my numbers but I said I would. It's at 185hp and 231tq.


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Well against popular vote I went and put my old 96 on the dyno. God that thing is slow haha. Almost embarrassed to put my numbers but I said I would. It's at 185hp and 231tq.


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Refer to post #13 lol. I could have saved you some monies.
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I was about to say that Scott guy was right on the money haha! It's just hard to believe it's that slow.


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That dyno certainly wasn't very generous, was it?
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It sure wasn't. I'm doing the PI swap for sure now.


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A stock NPI GT will lose to pretty much any V6 sedan these days. PI swap with 4.10s, bolt ons, tune, shifter and suspension will get you to a low 13 second ride and around 260/300 on the same dyno if the bottom end is good. NPI bottom ends with PI tops make more power than a straight up motor swap because of the compression bump. Running 91/93 octane is always a good idea after the swap.


Just remember that the canned tuners won't tune a PI swapped car so no Bama/Steeda. MPT will do it as will many others though.


Make sure to do all the little **** too, not just performance stuff. New plugs (actually use a torque wrench on PI heads), new FRPP wires ($50 from rockauto), fuel filter and I'd even look into getting new injectors too. Flow tested set of refurbished ones are cheap and if you've ever seen a set of old ones flowing vs a fresh set... yeah...


edit: I really do miss my 98GT, I'm a honestly a little jelly of you guys with stock unmolested 96-98 (and 94/95) cars to do whatever you want with.
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