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Old 05-04-2015, 11:03 AM   #1
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Vortech or spray

So now I'm down to the choice of building the internals and spraying the hell out of the car or just slapping on a vortech and calling it a day..

I'm happy with the number the vortech gives but I wish it had some whine to it.. If I'm gonna supercharge my car I want you to know its supercharged lol

Before I make the final choice I wanna know if my mods I have now are compatible with the vortech and if I can make the vortech louder..

Here's my mods engine wise: Steeda underdrive pullies, steeda cold air intake, BBK 73mm throttle body and plenum, comp cams stage 3 cams, comp cams valve springs, longtube headers, bassani off road H pipe, no cats, EGR delete, steeda stage 3 clutch, 42 lb injectors, full MSD ignition
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If you don't think a Vortech is loud enough you are probably listening to one of the quiet ones. Get a V1 headunit if you want to hear it whistle. The Novi 2000 on the 00GT I just bought is DEFINITELY noticeable and sounds glorious.

Sure the blower or nitrous is compatible with what you have... although if you were planning on going with a power adder then cams are a complete waste on a stock internal engine. The stock cams/heads will support way more power than the bottom end can take with a power adder. Also the Comp 270s will not be optimal with a supercharger but like I said, you will top out at around 425whp with the stock internals.
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1st off.... What is the goal for the car? What type of racing will you be doing?
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It's my daily, it will see the drag strip a few times a year maybe 10 and some roll racing with friends.. Nothing major just a fun Daily pretty much
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Procharger
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I've got a 150 shot but am waiting to install it lol I'm iffy on it buttttt, I think i wanna go with a vortech but I'm not sure which one to go with without beefing up the internals and such I'll stay below 425hp or if that's safer engine only has 108k
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Vortech = slow *** 2v on stock motor. Just saying

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Aren't vortechs usually in the 350-400 dollar range? Still pretty Weak by today's standards.
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Nitrous will give you more torque...


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Idefinetly meant horsepower lol. Plus that low torque number because it is a centri
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I vote turbo


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For what the OP wants to do as far as racing goes. Nitrous will be the fastest

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Hey why not just build a vortech from scrap and spend the same you would for nitrous setup, minus the headunit/vortech l, I've only spent 600 for thins I would need as far as the bracket/ discharge unit..etc, only thing I've bought brand new was oil lines, and you have it better than me because you already have the injectors and maf I think, and a fuel pump you can find easy for 100ish or so, I'm just waiting on a deal I have for a head unit for 600, I'm installing myself only thing I don't wanna mess with is the hole you have to put in oil pan for oil line and a shop by me quoted me $30 to do that. And the rest is just bolting up tube and lines, and putting on belt... That's it... Just my take.
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2v
Nitrous > centri
^ ^
Fast. Slow
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Win. Lose

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Vortech = slow *** 2v on stock motor. Just saying

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Lol I'll be happy with 11s with this setup. I'm not trying to win any medals or a stack of $100s.

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Aren't vortechs usually in the 350-400 dollar range? Still pretty Weak by today's standards.
Maybe like in 2007... Word has been out on the DIY setups for awhile and a good used S trim on a recent rebuild or lower miles is more like $800+.

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If he was auto and setup for 1/4 yeah. Although ppl see the On3 price and get all excited without realizing completing the whole kit is going to be the same price as a complete S trim kit. Also much more complicated to install.

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For what the OP wants to do as far as racing goes. Nitrous will be the fastest

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Hey why not just build a vortech from scrap and spend the same you would for nitrous setup, minus the headunit/vortech l, I've only spent 600 for thins I would need as far as the bracket/ discharge unit..etc, only thing I've bought brand new was oil lines, and you have it better than me because you already have the injectors and maf I think, and a fuel pump you can find easy for 100ish or so, I'm just waiting on a deal I have for a head unit for 600, I'm installing myself only thing I don't wanna mess with is the hole you have to put in oil pan for oil line and a shop by me quoted me $30 to do that. And the rest is just bolting up tube and lines, and putting on belt... That's it... Just my take.
-Normal Vortech HU price $800
-Injectors and pump $500
-Slot MAF Setup $240
-Tune+SCT Tuner $600
-Your Piping/tubing $600
-Misc stuff $500 or so

You'll probably be into a pieced together Vortech kit for around $3k which is actually really good. Intercooler kit is another $525 and very recommended.

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2v
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Sorry I meant 350-400 dollar up range
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What about the tork tech kit for the whipple blower?
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Tork Tech is currently the only non custom way to put a whipple or tvs on a 2V.

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I mean a blower is basically giving it what the termi has but a ****ty 2v platform
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I mean a blower is basically giving it what the termi has but a ****ty 2v platform
With the exception of the termi the 4v needs help too and grenades at the same power level. 2v also sounds way better.

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Vortech or spray

What ppl dont realize is the torq tek kit on a 2v makes about the same power as the 4v termi in stock form mainly due to the torq kit intake flows slightly better then the stock termi stuff... But its rathar expensive no matter what way u go u gotta pay to play... Im into a vortech setup right at 2300 after tune and all and i installed everything myself but thats with a lightning maf 42 lb green top injectors and a 255 pump i made 450 to the wheels but turned it back down some cuz i beat on it alot and i need it to last lol ... Once i get a forged bottom end i can change the pulley to the 8 rib setup ( which cost alil more for all the pulleys) and crank up the boost and will max out around 700 with my blower ... Not bad for 2300 bucks... Lol ...bottles are for babies! Real men get blown! Lol funny stuff


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I paid $5500 for my whole car that came with a Novi2000 already on it lol. Course the motor needs replaced and some other stuff...


Motor hopefully going in in a few weeks. Then bolt it all back up, load a startup tune and hope nothing leaks. Will tune it to 425 and be happy with it for awhile.
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Nitrous for what the OP wants.
Blowers are fun but nothing compares to a nice size shot

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I might look into just keeping the spray off the car and forging everything get the tork tech kit and just having a bad little 2v
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I might look into just keeping the spray off the car and forging everything get the tork tech kit and just having a bad little 2v
Might just want to get the Kenne Bell kit in that instance TBTH... The Tork tech kit with any kind of blower besides the hEaton is going to be just as much $$$. And you do still have to source some stuff from a Termi or just buy it new.
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I have a buddy that's selling a complete engine and tranny from an 04 termi for 5k but idk if it's worth it only 84,000 miles
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I'd have to see what a whole donor car is going for these days. I remember only a few years ago you could buy a wrecked termi with a good drivetrain for $6500-$8k depending on how bad it was.
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All you're doing is DD and strip? Nitrous will be way cheaper, wont beat the engine on a daily basis like a SC will, and you will be faster.
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What all should I build internally to be safe? Just so I don't blow up my dd
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What all should I build internally to be safe? Just so I don't blow up my dd
If you are going to keep it under a 125 shot, you are going to be fine. Nitrous Oxide isn't any more likely to blow your engine than any other power-adder. Honestly, its probably easier on your engine than a supercharger considering the fact that you only spray nitrous every now and then, but the SC is just about always boosting and adding power/stress/heat.

Only spray at WOT and don't spray it at low RPM (under 2500) and you're all good.
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Stock motor you don't want to even spray as low as 2,500.

3,000 minimum, preferably 3500 for a stock motor

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