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Old 05-16-2015, 08:08 PM   #1
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Why won't my Maximum Motorsports firewall adjuster fit?

Hey guys why won't my MM firewall adjuster screw in all the way in the firewall? It hits the body on the the side by the pedals.Click image for larger version

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Here's as far as it screws in before it hit that.Click image for larger version

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Is that as far as it goes or do I have to bend that metal piece?


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Figured it out. Had to file a bigger hole for the adjuster to fit down further.


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Was going to say, has to be an install error. I've never heard of a MM part not fitting unless something was messed up on the car the part was going on.
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Was going to say, has to be an install error. I've never heard of a MM part not fitting unless something was messed up on the car the part was going on.

Well it didn't fit right for some reason. I wasn't expecting it either. Looked everything over a whole bunch if times and it was installed right. Had to make the hole the adjuster goes in the firewall a bit bigger and it sat a little lower and didn't hit on the other side anymore. Works great now tho


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I've always used the Fiore adjuster myself, curious as to whether this MM one you have is a click style adjuster or does it have a set screw? I hate set screws.
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The Maximum Motorsports clutch cable kit is my favorite all time aftermarket part i have ever used. Best clutch feel ever!!!!!!!
When you experience clutch issues and even get stranded on side of the road, when you find a fix that is so much better than stock or anything else tried in place prior, it is appreciated 10X more.
The Cobra is going to have the clutch replaced with a McLeod clutch kit. Im also installing new FRRP TO & Pilt bearings, MM clutch kit, billit TO bearing sleeve/tube,
and clutch fork with new adjustable pivot ball.
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The Maximum Motorsports clutch cable kit is my favorite all time aftermarket part i have ever used. Best clutch feel ever!!!!!!!
When you experience clutch issues and even get stranded on side of the road, when you find a fix that is so much better than stock or anything else tried in place prior, it is appreciated 10X more.
The Cobra is going to have the clutch replaced with a McLeod clutch kit. Im also installing new FRRP TO & Pilt bearings, MM clutch kit, billit TO bearing sleeve/tube,
and clutch fork with new adjustable pivot ball.
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Get OEM TOB/Pilot, not FRPP, they are not the same. You need to get the TOB/Pilot from a dealership. Tousley has good prices on them.
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So I adjusted it quiet a bit to where there is almost no slack at all, I'm still getting a little vibration in the pedal. More apparent with increased rpms. I'm scared to over adjust it and wear out the clutch or de story my transmission. Any ideas?


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That vibration is indicative of something in the clutch being not quite right honestly. Clutch pedal should not vibrate.

Correct way to set the preload up with a firewall adjuster is to actually be looking into the bellhousing through the clutch fork opening while the car is running in neutral. If the TOB is not spinning, tighten the adjuster up until it starts to spin and then go a little tighter and there you go. If its spinning already when you look at it, back it off till it stops and then do the above process.
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That vibration is indicative of something in the clutch being not quite right honestly. Clutch pedal should not vibrate.

Correct way to set the preload up with a firewall adjuster is to actually be looking into the bellhousing through the clutch fork opening while the car is running in neutral. If the TOB is not spinning, tighten the adjuster up until it starts to spin and then go a little tighter and there you go. If its spinning already when you look at it, back it off till it stops and then do the above process.

Yeah I'll have to do that. But the thing is I am sure everything is installed correctly. If u by chance read my other post about all the troubles I had in installation, by the 5th time I installed everything I'm 100% sure everything is correctly installed lol


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Why won't my Maximum Motorsports firewall adjuster fit?

And again it's only on the slack of the pedal and then it's perfectly smooth. Everything is torqued to exedys specs also


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Get OEM TOB/Pilot, not FRPP, they are not the same. You need to get the TOB/Pilot from a dealership. Tousley has good prices on them.
Thank You-
I am going to start over with my research since you mentioned it.
The M#on my FRPP bearings are exactly the same as on the Ford bearings.
I will double check, last time i questioned it, NO ONE WOULD ANSWER ME!!!!
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That vibration is indicative of something in the clutch being not quite right honestly. Clutch pedal should not vibrate.

Correct way to set the preload up with a firewall adjuster is to actually be looking into the bellhousing through the clutch fork opening while the car is running in neutral. If the TOB is not spinning, tighten the adjuster up until it starts to spin and then go a little tighter and there you go. If its spinning already when you look at it, back it off till it stops and then do the above process.

Ok so did what you said about adjusting it. Tightened it until the tob started spinning and the. A couple more turns. Took if out for a drive and still got the same vibration in the pedal. Got pissed off and did a 5000 rpm shift (300 miles on new clutch). After that the pedal started vibrating a lot more apparent. Vibrated enough to make the pedal sit there and click.

After getting it home I turned the car off and felt the pedal. Pedal was a lot harder to depress and made a click sound coming from the bell housing when it got past a certain point. And after starting it to pull it In the garage the grabbing point was right off the floor. Before it was about 3 inches up id say.

I jacked the car up and took the dust cover off the transmission. The clutch fork had somehow slid out of the set point on the ball. After pushing the fork in you could tell it reset in it's proper position back in place on the pivot ball, the clutch felt normal again and the clicking sound was gone.

I am now thinking my pedal vibration problem is due to the pivot ball/clutch fork. It was worn when I disassembled it but I thought it wasn't giving me any problems before, I'm not gonna **** with it. If I tear this apart again I am going to go with all oem everything. Gonna replace this ford racing tob and get a oem one and same for fork and pivot ball.

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What's the absolute best throwout bearing I can get? Oem?


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OEM Ford throw out bearing appears to be the same as the FRRP bearing.
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F7ZZ-7548-AA BEARING
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BEARING for 1996 Ford Mustang|F7ZZ-7548-AA
My FRRP TO bearing has same part number.
On the bearing it'self, "614014" is stamped onto it.
So, I'm still not sure what the deal is with that.
I have both FRRP TO bearing and pilot bearing to go on when McLeod clutch kit goes on. MM clutch cable kit, TO bearing sleeve tube, adjustable pivot bolt, FRRP fork, all to work together as a cohesive unit. Can't wait!!
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So was driving around a bit today and the fork slid off the set point on the clutch fork again... Any other possibilities this could be? Where do I find oem fork, tob, and pivot ball also? I don't want to get ford racing stuff in accident again


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Good Idea to also go to my local ford dealer and order them? I think they would be able to get them next day


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See what the prices are, you won't have to pay for shipping. There is a badass dealer right where I used to live that I still go to. I'm actually heading out there for a few things this week. They sell a lot of FRPP stuff as well as Steeda and Roush too.
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Good Idea to also go to my local ford dealer and order them? I think they would be able to get them next day


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And where can I find the input shaft retaining sleeve? The part the throwout bearing slides on. I can't find oem anywhere


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For the sleeve you actually want FRPP.



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For the sleeve you actually want FRPP.




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Well **** I was looking for only oem **** lol wasn't seeing it on tousley thanks man


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Wait, **** you don't have a T-5 DO NOT BUY THAT!

I got it in my head that this was for a SN95 with a T-5 for some reason... I'm truly sorry if you've ordered it already, call AM and they'll cancel.

Let me know what trans you have and I'll link you to the correct sleeve.
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Why won't my Maximum Motorsports firewall adjuster fit?

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Wait, **** you don't have a T-5 DO NOT BUY THAT!

I got it in my head that this was for a SN95 with a T-5 for some reason... I'm truly sorry if you've ordered it already, call AM and they'll cancel.

Let me know what trans you have and I'll link you to the correct sleeve.

Nah I haven't ordered yet no worries, I've got the 3650

Also should I switch from royal purple transmission fluid? Been reading it's hard on the synchros in the 3650. I want to get the best

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Went ahead and ordered everything from local ford dealer simply for the fact it would be here tomorrow and I can work on it this weekend. Also, tousley's site says you have to call them to see if they have everything in stock and their number was disconnected. I got the clutch fork, pivot ball, oem tob, tob retainer, and new flywheel and pressure plate bolts.. 330$ later... If this doesn't fix my issue I quit at life


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You got the 3650 sleeve? Everything I was seeing is that the 3650 one is non-available or only on a new trans which I did find hard to believe because then where do the rebuilders get them?

I found a bunch of T-45 stuff tho lol.
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You got the 3650 sleeve? Everything I was seeing is that the 3650 one is non-available or only on a new trans which I did find hard to believe because then where do the rebuilders get them?

I found a bunch of T-45 stuff tho lol.

I'm assuming the dealer got the right thing. 3650 came on all 02 gts correct?


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Yes it was the only stick shift trans that year.
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Yes it was the only stick shift trans that year.

Then I'm assuming they got the right one. I guess I'll find out tomorrow. Should I keep using royal purple transmission fluid or switch to a better one since I'll be draining it yet again


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I like Pennzoil Synchromesh. Word on the street is that Royal Purple eats blocker rings in these transmissions but I have not seen anything official from any manufacturers on that.

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I like Pennzoil Synchromesh. Word on the street is that Royal Purple eats blocker rings in these transmissions but I have not seen anything official from any manufacturers on that.

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Ok sounds good man. This has been the story of my life with both my mustang and my 4Runner this past month lolClick image for larger version

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Everything else looks correct but they must have misunderstood me when I was talking about the input shaft/tob sleeve. This is what they gave meClick image for larger version

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Idk they might be discontinued for the 3650 like you said Scott.


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That's for a T-5. Send it back and make them pay return shipping.


Like I said, everything I'm seeing says they are not available separately... hmmm...




Here give this a shot. Owner is named Stan
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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!! Stayed up till 4:30am installing everything I bought today, oem clutch fork, oem throwout bearing, oem pivot ball. SAME ****

So now I have installed:
exedy mach 400 clutch kit
Maximum motorports adjuster/ cable kit
Oem throwout bearing
Clutch fork
Pivot ball
Resurfaced flywheel

What the hell else could it be?!?!? I'm beyond fed up with this. Ughhhhhhhh




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I went through the same thing on my 96 gt. Best advice I can give is to pull on the cable with your left hand and turn the adjuster until there is about a dime width gap between adjuster and cable assembly. Than just go and drive your car for a while. You may have to adjust it again that's ok. I had to re adjust mine like three times and I can say after about 4k miles the vibrating is pretty much gone. Than again I don't usually leave my foot on the clutch while I drive.


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