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Old 05-20-2015, 05:50 PM   #36
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I've already seen that one. And one on Modded Mustangs. Eventually this car will get stripped down. Just waiting until the right time to do it. The one on MM is actually a lot longer.


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You will be suprised how much all of the crap in the trunk and wheel liners etc way. It made the rear of my car raise up slightly where it looks like it's not lowered.


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I've already seen that one. And one on Modded Mustangs. Eventually this car will get stripped down. Just waiting until the right time to do it. The one on MM is actually a lot longer.


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You mean until you have a daily lol. What about the headliner
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Yea it probably actually hurt the car taking the weight out of the trunk and back seats. Now it's even more in balanced. But I would rather take from the front than add to the rear.


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You mean until you have a daily lol. What about the headliner

Headliner I'm keeping lol. Won't be that serious of a race car.... Even Brett Madsen with a 99 Roush that weighs 2200 pounds has a headliner lmao


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Well don't overlook the obvious... The carpet!
The factory carpet is heavy, with the rubber backing. The replacement carpet that AM sells is much lighter. It just doesnt fit very good in the back.
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Maybe some plastic panels can come off
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Like the mudflaps!
Mudflaps are heavy...
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Like the mudflaps!

Mudflaps are heavy...

I almost lost them at my track day. Hit a rounded curb and half of one of them popped out.

And my carpet is actually in really nice shape for almost 150k miles


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Ok. I didn't want to do this but I think that I may have to step in here and take your mudflaps away from you. You are being COMPLETELY irresponsible with them!
Lol.
I'm NEVER going to autocross with them on my car ever again. I've been thinking what a fool that I've been for risking them like that!
They are just too damned hard to replace!
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Ok. I didn't want to do this but I think that I may have to step in here and take your mudflaps away from you. You are being COMPLETELY irresponsible with them!

Lol.

I'm NEVER going to autocross with them on my car ever again. I've been thinking what a fool that I've been for risking them like that!

They are just too damned hard to replace!

It was at a track day. I don't ever see a cone being able to take them out lol


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It was at a track day. I don't ever see a cone being able to take them out lol


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I could totally see a cone getting wedged underneath one and tearing it off.
I have nightmares about it now!
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I'm not gonna do it no more...
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With how hard it hit the rounded curb I thought I lost it. These things are way tougher than you would think.


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lol removing the heater core to save weight on the front... The heater core itself weighs almost nothing. Just drain the coolant out of it and bypass it completely so its empty at all times. If you really want to save weight on the front maybe you shouldn't have an overhead cammed V8 haha
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Headliner I'm keeping lol. Won't be that serious of a race car.... Even Brett Madsen with a 99 Roush that weighs 2200 pounds has a headliner lmao


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Have you already relocated your battery to the trunk? Another thing would be to look into removing your EGR system to allow you to mount the entire drivetrain 2" father back. Plus then the shifter would be in a more convenient spot to reach than it is stock. That would enable you to sell the car as custom and then you could afford a corvette with the money you get off the sale lol
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Here we go again.
Says the genius with a bone stock car who thinks "sound dedening" weighs 200 lbs haha sorry we're not all gurus like you
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Have you already relocated your battery to the trunk? Another thing would be to look into removing your EGR system to allow you to mount the entire drivetrain 2" father back. Plus then the shifter would be in a more convenient spot to reach than it is stock. That would enable you to sell the car as custom and then you could afford a corvette with the money you get off the sale lol
Panther, you are kind of a "Genius Savant".
Moving the drivetrain back in the chassis is really the only way to get the proper weight bias. Except 2 inches isn't going to be enough.
I came across this car the other day. This guy went with 18 inches of setback!
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Panther, you are kind of a "Genius Savant".
Moving the drivetrain back in the chassis is really the only way to get the proper weight bias. Except 2 inches isn't going to be enough.
I came across this car the other day. This guy went with 18 inches of setback!
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Damn 18" must have took some pretty heavy fabrication and how do you mean "genius savant" lol.

But one thing I think about setting back a 4.6 instead of an older 5.0 is that the 4.6 is a heavier engine, I believe. So any movement you do with it is going to mean more
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I believe that the modulars weigh less than the push rods.
Much more aluminum on the modular engines. And the blocks are cast using the minimum amount of material possible.
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I believe that the modulars weigh less than the push rods.
Much more aluminum on the modular engines. And the blocks are cast using the minimum amount of material possible.
Right but they are also OHC so im not sure which was lighter tbh. I cant find actual engine weights anywhere except for the block weight on the 5.0 which was about 120Lbs
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Right but they are also OHC so im not sure which was lighter tbh. I cant find actual engine weights anywhere except for the block weight on the 5.0 which was about 120Lbs
I haven't seen any hard numbers either but the internet says around 80-110 lbs less than the push rods.
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I haven't seen any hard numbers either but the internet says around 80-110 lbs less than the push rods.
Thats kinda impressive even while using aluminum lol
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I do remember reading about an alternative to the a/c bypass pulley. If you do not want the plastic pulley, someone has found a way to take what i believe was a v6 grooved idler pulley, and swapped it with, i think, the tensioner pulley. then did a reroute with a certain length belt, and it worked. i was considering doing it with mine over a year ago, but then summer hit, and i remembered just how awful florida humidity is.

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lol removing the heater core to save weight on the front... The heater core itself weighs almost nothing. Just drain the coolant out of it and bypass it completely so its empty at all times. If you really want to save weight on the front maybe you shouldn't have an overhead cammed V8 haha
If you remove 10-15 things that weigh 2 pounds each, thats about 30lbs which can make a difference. You don't get into the 2,000s by just the big things.
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Panther, you are kind of a "Genius Savant".
Moving the drivetrain back in the chassis is really the only way to get the proper weight bias. Except 2 inches isn't going to be enough.
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Yea i'd rather not have my engine sitting behind the firewall lol.
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Have you already relocated your battery to the trunk? Another thing would be to look into removing your EGR system to allow you to mount the entire drivetrain 2" father back. Plus then the shifter would be in a more convenient spot to reach than it is stock. That would enable you to sell the car as custom and then you could afford a corvette with the money you get off the sale lol
Thinking about it.... I really want to do a corner weight so i can see the distribution at each corner so i know the better placement for the battery..... I'm basing this off Brett Madsen's car. He has 2200lbs in his 99 roush and perfect weight distribution with the battery still up front......... Hell if i do end up doing a coyote swap i would have to move the battery anyway.
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Thinking about it.... I really want to do a corner weight so i can see the distribution at each corner so i know the better placement for the battery..... I'm basing this off Brett Madsen's car. He has 2200lbs in his 99 roush and perfect weight distribution with the battery still up front......... Hell if i do end up doing a coyote swap i would have to move the battery anyway.
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I know i'm coming in late with my comment but i don't have any issues with my defroster but i also garage my car end of October beginning of November and it don't come out until spring.

All this good weather talk, it seemed to be the coldest winter ever here in Pittsburgh, PA last winter in fact even today it's 50 freaking degrees here.
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My after market head unit was 10 lbs lighter than that monstrosity of a stock one I had
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I assume you already have tubular control arms, but if you dont already, thats a good weight savings I would imagine
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I assume you already have tubular control arms, but if you dont already, thats a good weight savings I would imagine

I plan on a SLA front suspension conversion in the future so K member and A arms are stock right now. I do have coilovers though. I don't want to spend money twice. Carbon fiber hood when I get a garage in the future.


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I know i'm coming in late with my comment but i don't have any issues with my defroster but i also garage my car end of October beginning of November and it don't come out until spring.

All this good weather talk, it seemed to be the coldest winter ever here in Pittsburgh, PA last winter in fact even today it's 50 freaking degrees here.

I live in California..... Should say enough lol


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I do remember reading about an alternative to the a/c bypass pulley. If you do not want the plastic pulley, someone has found a way to take what i believe was a v6 grooved idler pulley, and swapped it with, i think, the tensioner pulley. then did a reroute with a certain length belt, and it worked. i was considering doing it with mine over a year ago, but then summer hit, and i remembered just how awful florida humidity is.

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This looks like the way to go!
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