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Old 06-03-2015, 03:53 PM   #1
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Camming my Moms 03 GT

Longstory short my moms taking my 3.7 and trading it in and im getting the 03 GT (Convertible) it has 110k miles on it my dad kept it maintained and there not hard miles at all just highway my mom doesnt go above 80mph.. I wanted too do a Comp Cam 270 Stage 3 but would it be safe since its my daily driver and with the motor having loads of miles on it if i shouldnt i wont but if i can what all should i change out like the oil pump for example and injectors. And what brand should i get


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.... Going from a 3.7 to a 2v? Why?
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Rather not type a story just personal stuff and a smarter business decision down the road


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Bolt ons, gears, shifter, suspension and tune before cams. Or you will see zero benefit except the sound. I would not go with 270s, they will need to be retarded a few degrees to install in a stock motor without PTV issues. Get a set of Cushman "stage 2" NA cams and a set of new valve springs. And the degree service too. All said and done a set of cams is going to be $1000 or so DIY just so you are aware of the cost. Cushman>Comp x1000.

And yeah you are downgrading going from the 3.7 to the 2V but it is what it is. If its not in your name and its the financially smart decision...
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I would take another 2v over a 3.7 just for sound alone.

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Do the cushmans have a good mid-top end performance and whats the sound of the lope and my dad already has a max off road H and flowmasters in the attic for it but (**** flowmasters) im going slps or pypes


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Old 06-03-2015, 04:14 PM   #7
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I would take another 2v over a 3.7 just for sound alone.

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Do the cushmans have a good mid-top end performance and whats the sound of the lope and my dad already has a max off road H and flowmasters in the attic for it but (**** flowmasters) im going slps or pypes


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There are videos on their website. Cushmans are better than the Comps all over. Give him a call if you are dead set on the cams but if you don't have suspension and gears I would do all that first.

Pypes are also cheap as hell china made stuffs. SLP is good but if you live in a neighborhood I would not run an OR pipe and SLP because they are loud as hell.
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Do the cushmans have a good mid-top end performance and whats the sound of the lope and my dad already has a max off road H and flowmasters in the attic for it but (**** flowmasters) im going slps or pypes


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Slp lm1's and pypes are going to sound like complete **** on a 2v with a off road mid.

I had lm1's and off road x on my old 2v. Sounded horrible just stupid loud.

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Yep, SLP an an OR pipe is just going to be loud as all hell and that's pretty much it. Bassanni sounds real good with an OR pipe, so do Dynomax Ultras and Magnaflows/Magnapacks.

Pypes products look like a 12 year old did the welds. Which is honestly probably the case...
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Is it possible to tell what cams are on a Motor without taking off the valve covers?

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Is it possible to tell what cams are on a Motor without taking off the valve covers?

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Yeah you could ask the owner of the car what cams are in it lol
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Rofl yea i was looking at bassani but theres a 2v in my neighborhood with longtubes stage 2 cams and a custom mid pipe fitment with slps and it has a nice tone and is race car loud... So but besides cushmans what other cams do you recommend for mid-top end and whats wrong with comp cams ive never heard any issues of them before besides the cleareance but no one i have heard of had issues


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Nothing wrong with the comp cams except the cushmans are better. Unsure why you keep asking the same question about what other cams. There are hitechs, mhs, mmr and a few others if you want to really shop around I guess.

Also "race car loud" in a neighborhood=asshat.

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😂😂😂 ur right but most neighbors dont catch him becaause he works like a 9-7 im familiar with high tech and mmr but never heard of good hp gains from mmr


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Thanx for the help all suggestions from everybody else is welcomed


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Well if MMR would release their goddamn cam specs more ppl might give them a shot...


Again, Cushman is going to be the best bet for what it seems YOU are doing which is a bolt on/NA 300 or so rwhp vehicle. But like I said you'll want to do the bolt ons first and the cams should be the very last thing.
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MMR is shady real shady.
Some of there big NA custom cams for the coyotes are the exact same as the NSR cams. With less duration and lift. And less at 50°

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Not to mention you read more issues with motors from them then all the other builders combined... I've read some response threads by them which are like... really bad.


I've also seen combos with motors built by them that run like banshees... IMO, they have a massive QC issue and care more about pumping out volume than doing it correctly 100%. But that's just me. I will never give them a dime of my money that is for damn sure.


Then you have builders like Fordstrokers who you NEVER hear a single bad thing about because its just him (Woody) and another master builder and that's it. They have like a 3 month wait from the time you order until they start building your motor because of it but that is totally worth it IMO.
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Bolt ons, gears, shifter, suspension and tune before cams. Or you will see zero benefit except the sound. I would not go with 270s, they will need to be retarded a few degrees to install in a stock motor without PTV issues. Get a set of Cushman "stage 2" NA cams and a set of new valve springs. And the degree service too. All said and done a set of cams is going to be $1000 or so DIY just so you are aware of the cost. Cushman>Comp x1000.

And yeah you are downgrading going from the 3.7 to the 2V but it is what it is. If its not in your name and its the financially smart decision...
Why would you tune it before you got cams? You put the cams on before you go to the dyno and then tune it. Or are you suggesting a canned tune for those specific cams?
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Why would you tune it before you got cams? You put the cams on before you go to the dyno and then tune it. Or are you suggesting a canned tune for those specific cams?
He is saying spend money on suspension Boltons and a tune rather than cams

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And it isn't like you couldn't just get a new tune burnt. I'm not talking about "canned tunes for life" I'm talking about just paying for your remote tuner or local tuner to update your tune for cams once they are in.
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Yeah you could ask the owner of the car what cams are in it lol
I wish it was that easy lol.

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Hmmmm i wanted too go for a 340-360 HP Daily Driver


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Then you need a power adder.

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What do you mean by power adder?


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Forced induction or nitrous. If you are talking about flywheel hp... You will be around 330 with cams and a good tune. About 290rwhp.

But hp numbers are just numbers. You can have a cammed 2v making those numbers with stock suspension and get destroyed in the 1/4 by a 255rwhp bolt on car that is setup real well.

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Yea you need something too hold and support that power how much ho u think 2v make too the wheels all motor with or without head work? What suspension do you recommend im on a budget so i cant go with my original build for suspension


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Without... 290 to the wheels. With... Not much more maybe 325 or so.. NA these motors are not great.

Budget suspension... Steeda lower control arms, lower the car all around, full length subframes, 4.10s and a good wheel/tire setup.

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I was told steeda was the best bang for your buck its kinda sad tho my tuned and exhaust only 3.7 beat 2 built 04 cammed gts


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The 3.7 is a pretty impressive machine
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Check my instgram its pretty tragic I pulled like a boss IG: malik.of.bwa


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Staying NA that Cyclone was always going to make more power unfortunately. However, the 2V is DIRT cheap to get parts for and easy to work on. 4.10s and a decent setup with 250-290rwhp and a good driver in these makes for a fun driver that will sound great and the New Edge is probably THE best looking Mustang ever made.
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True thats why im settling for it like the exhaust setup and tune for my car was 1.3k+ i can get a cam job and bigger fuel pumps and injectors and decent exhaust for that price with a tune


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I have legitimately been thinking of camming my car mainly because I want to freshen up the heads with new seals and everything. But then I keep thinking of the costs.

From what I've seen a good bang for the buck is the MHS stock mod head and can combo. It's lightly ported heads with your choice of cams. Degree service is included and it comes with new valves with cut lips for more clearance. New seals and everything else. You can send in your cores and get $100 back. But most likely need new injectors since my stock 19lbs would be maxed. Then install and tuning. I don't think I would be able to tackle the install myself honestly. Never done any engine work. If I did want to have it installed and tuned by a shop I would just take it to AED and let them install and tune it at the same time.


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I'm going to have a set of real low mileage windsor cores here in a few weeks...

But yeah the MHS stock mod setup is very nice. MHS does badass porting too, like... REALLY good porting. His "stage 2" and "stage 3" heads are documented at 700+ with power adders. No need for TFS heads unless you are looking for more power than that or a max effort NA build.
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