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Old 06-12-2015, 08:18 PM   #1
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Great way to ruin a good day.

So I just got my wheels installed and spoiler delete.

So as I was showing it off I went to my uncles house and he did a few burnouts and then boom this hose snapped off. We were able to get it back on with a clamp but the hose it gets connected to is rusted out and bad how can I find out.Click image for larger version

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Old 06-12-2015, 09:29 PM   #2
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It's the supply return heater hose. What it goes connected was just burnt up and snapped off where can I find this the piece that it gets connected too?


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Old 06-12-2015, 09:55 PM   #3
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Is the piece that pokes out of the firewall, from inside of the car, broken?
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No the piece from the motor


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If it is the piece on the intake manifold, you are going to have to replace the entire manifold.


Get a FRPP replacement manifold.
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If its rusted its not the piece on the manifold seeing as the manifold is plastic. Most likely it is the tube running under the manifold from the water pump.


It literally goes all the way from the front of the motor under the manifold.


Here is the one that is on the Vic motor in my garage. Its not quite the same on the Mustang but you can see what I am talking about.


If the hose is clamped on that piece right now and its not leaking... I dunno I would not trust it. Whole manifold has to come off and you might as well do the water pump because when you pull the tube off the water pump nipple it likely won't seal right again and the only way to change the nipple is to remove the water pump... yeah...


This is all assuming that the black tube I'm talking about is what he is talking about.
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Yes it's the piece on the manifold.


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After realizing that many people don't use antifreeze/coolant, if they live in a mild climate, I just naturally assume that most people have rust cursing through their cooling system.

Looking at both photos, I believe that Scotty could be correct.
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It looks like the tube that goes inside the manifold.



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Yes it's the piece on the manifold.


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Is it plastic or metal?
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:48 PM   #12
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It's rusted out idk probably is metal but the out part the plastic from the manifold is fine.


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I think that you are going to need a new manifold...
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:57 PM   #14
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The return gets connected over the rusted out tube I don't think it's the manifold


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Old 06-12-2015, 11:00 PM   #15
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Then it is the tube that Scotty posted a picture of.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:09 PM   #16
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I don't think it's that tube. It's all the way at the back


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Let me put it this way the tube is not shutting right thus snapping off at high pressure


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Old 06-12-2015, 11:17 PM   #18
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I clamped it up so its good now but the hose doesn't seal good and tight like it should it doesn't seal all the way down


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The picture that Scotty posted is looking at the rear of the engine. It is either that tube or the nipple going to the intake manifold.
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If its rusted its not the piece on the manifold seeing as the manifold is plastic. Most likely it is the tube running under the manifold from the water pump.


It literally goes all the way from the front of the motor under the manifold.


Here is the one that is on the Vic motor in my garage. Its not quite the same on the Mustang but you can see what I am talking about.


If the hose is clamped on that piece right now and its not leaking... I dunno I would not trust it. Whole manifold has to come off and you might as well do the water pump because when you pull the tube off the water pump nipple it likely won't seal right again and the only way to change the nipple is to remove the water pump... yeah...


This is all assuming that the black tube I'm talking about is what he is talking about.
Haha.
I just noticed! Look at how those brutes at the wrecking yard bent that 02 sensor all to hell. I wonder if they just left it connected and the wires did that until the connector broke? Or if they just plain ol' caught it on something when they yanked that sucker out with the forklift?
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:59 PM   #21
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I'll see if I can take it off and show you the exact piece that's rotten away


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Old 06-13-2015, 12:31 AM   #23
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As you can see the hose is fine, it's what keeps it there, is gone.


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I've been doing research it may be the heater hose return tube. About $50 does anyone know about a DIY?

Also is have to wait for so how does silicone sound for holding together for a few days?


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It doesnt show where exactly that hose is going because one of the hoses goes to a tube that runs under the manifold and the other hose plugs to the manifold itself, now the peice that goes to manifold is plastic and does not rust but it may appear to be rusty if someone has put any kind of stop leak or just hasnt ever flushed the system and the coolant just staind the plastic nipple.... Either way intake has to come off to fix it but i would wait till its off and see where its broke then order the part after u know


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Yea it was off but I clamped it back together the plastic is fine it's just what it connects to that's bad


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Yea it was off but I clamped it back together the plastic is fine it's just what it connects to that's bad


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Here you go guys Click image for larger version

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What the heck is that inner circle there that looks pretty beat up?


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That is a metal nipple that is molded into the intake manifold.

You need a new manifold Alex.
Get a FRPP.
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That is a metal nipple that is molded into the intake manifold.



You need a new manifold Alex.

Get a FRPP.

Nope already fixed it at no cost. Although I might have messed up the cop or the plug. It's misfiring in 7


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How did you fix it?

There is probably coolant in the spark plug well, causing the misfire.
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Yeah probably some silicone and a clamp I'm assuming.


Pull the #7 coil out, blow out the plug well with compressed air and pull the boot off the coil and see how the spring looks. If its rusty or anything, replace all 8 springs/boots with a $30 kit from Amazon. Good excuse to do spark plugs if they have not been done in awhile as well.

I cut the ridges off and was able to get the hose to reach the bottom of the manifold piece. So it's sitting good and tight I will have to replace the manifold tho in the near future tho.


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Ah gotcha, the plastic cracked off but there was enough of the plastic tube left for you go get a good grip on. Just be careful, without the lip on the end of the tube it could work loose even if it seems tight especially when the motor gets hot.

And when you do get a new intake, make sure you get the Ford Racing one. Do not get one from a parts store (dorman) or the $199 "replacement" one from AM. Has to be FRPP. Also do not buy used unless you can verify it is from a very low mileage vehicle.
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Ah gotcha, the plastic cracked off but there was enough of the plastic tube left for you go get a good grip on. Just be careful, without the lip on the end of the tube it could work loose even if it seems tight especially when the motor gets hot.

And when you do get a new intake, make sure you get the Ford Racing one. Do not get one from a parts store (dorman) or the $199 "replacement" one from AM. Has to be FRPP. Also do not buy used unless you can verify it is from a very low mileage vehicle.

Yea I know about the manifold but I don't think it comes with the gaskets.Thanks tho.

Right now I have a p0307 code on cylinder 7


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Yeah you need to buy gaskets, fel pro works great. As for your misfire, try what I mentioned before. Probably have a bunch of coolant down there causing problems.

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