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Old 06-15-2015, 03:33 PM   #1
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Supercharger and cams!

Hello everyone

I was thinking of adding a supercharger on my fully bolton cammed GT. It has comp cammed stage 2 xtream energy
And i want to keep it on stockblock
And car has UDP also but il remove them soon and put back the original ones

I can go with vortech V3 7-9psi kit
Or kenne bell 6psi intercooled
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:59 PM   #2
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Either one should work good.
Just keep the tune below 450 hp and the engine should be fine.
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I'd say more like 425 to the wheels. That's what I'm going to be tuning my replacement motor too. If I ever get started anyway...


I'll also recommend the Paxton.




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Its a better "starter" kit than the S trim is as you won't need to upgrade the headunit if you ever do a built engine. The Novi 2000 moves a LOT of air.
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Spray it.

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What are your goals for the car?


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Old 06-15-2015, 09:19 PM   #6
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I'd say more like 425 to the wheels. That's what I'm going to be tuning my replacement motor too. If I ever get started anyway...


I'll also recommend the Paxton.




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Its a better "starter" kit than the S trim is as you won't need to upgrade the headunit if you ever do a built engine. The Novi 2000 moves a LOT of air.

Nope.
450

I want to see Ahmed at the top of his game!
Life is too short to be rolling around with only 425 hp. You can always buy a new engine but you can't buy back those days that you were driving around with only 425...
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Ok and these cams xtreme energy they will work fine with charger right?

And yeah my goal is 400rwhp for now
With cams the car should do 400whp on low boost


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Nope.
450

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Life is too short to be rolling around with only 425 hp. You can always buy a new engine but you can't buy back those days that you were driving around with only 425...
Lol. **** it just crank it to 550 and see how long she holds.



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Ok and these cams xtreme energy they will work fine with charger right?

And yeah my goal is 400rwhp for now
With cams the car should do 400whp on low boost


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Stock cams. You don't need anything besides those with a supercharger to get you to 400. Save your money for the supercharger.
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Ok and these cams xtreme energy they will work fine with charger right?

And yeah my goal is 400rwhp for now
With cams the car should do 400whp on low boost


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They aren't optimal for FI but since you already own them and they are already installed, they should work fine.
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Both you and Scotty are considering going with a remote tune. I don't know a lot about the process but, from what I have gathered, the tuner sends an initial tune and then you install it, drive the car, and then send them back a data log from which they "fine tune" the tune. I'm guessing that after you go through the data logging process a few times, the tune is considered acceptable and everyone is happy.

My question is, then what happens?
Do you take the car and put it on a dyno to see what the horsepower number is?
What if you got a really good tune and you are at say 455 hp?

Would you ask the tuner if he could turn it down a bit?
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If I had a really good tuner say it was spot on and safe at 5800 I'd roll with it.

Yes the process you described is how it works. You get a startup tune, you load it and run the car in the driveway and follow the provided instructions. You send those logs for a basic driving tune. Then you datalog on the street and send THOSE back.

After that tune you are pretty much good but you can take the car to a dyno and get on Wi-Fi with a laptop and have time booked concurrently with the remote tuner and have him tune you on the dyno.

Or just find a real good local tuner lol.

The OP should definitely be getting a wideband tho. Running without one is a no no.

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Straybullitt i think i will just add an charger on these cams then


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Yep, supercharger with PI cams will max out what the stock motor can take.

I still recommend the Novi 2000. About the same price as the Vortech S trim except the Novi 2000 moves a LOT more air and is on par with the T trim.
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