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Old 06-18-2015, 05:14 PM   #1
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Intake manifold

Well as you guys know the nipple on my manifold is destroyed, I guess it rusted away. Right now I have the hose clamped up pretty good however I have to make a 500 mile trip soon and do not want to risk anything. So I'm just going to replace it sooner rather than later as I originally planned on doing.

Does anyone know of anywhere else to get a good deal on a manifold besides AM

AM has the Dortmund one, I believe it's called, for 200 and has gaskets where as 215 for the ford racing one but no gaskets. And then the more expensive ones which I wouldn't mind looking at, parts and labor I have a budget of about $400-$500. What's the usual labor for this job??

I can do it myself just don't have the time and I don't want to risk messing something up, it's my DD. what do you guys recommend ? Open to suggestions and opinions. Want to have it done by next week. Thanks in advanceClick image for larger version

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Do not get the cheaper one of the two or you will be loosing quite a bit of power. Only got with the ford racing one.


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It really isn't that hard to do this repair. I've done several and they never take that long. It's just a lot of busy work. They're plenty of you tube videos out there of 4.6 2v's and people showing you how to take it out. Trust me I did my first one and had no clue on what to do and where to start. I dove in and got it done in roughly 5 hours because I was new to it. It's really isn't that hard. You only need like 1-3 different sockets I believe.


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It really isn't that hard to do this repair. I've done several and they never take that long. It's just a lot of busy work. They're plenty of you tube videos out there of 4.6 2v's and people showing you how to take it out. Trust me I did my first one and had no clue on what to do and where to start. I dove in and got it done in roughly 5 hours because I was new to it. It's really isn't that hard. You only need like 1-3 different sockets I believe.


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I'm in Florida, I have nowhere to do it and if I did the rain alone wouldn't let me


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Unless you know a mechanic there gonna take you over the coals for install the book says 4.5 hours to install I did mine in 2.5 hours its not hard to do do you have a buddy that has a garage or even a carport

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Unless you know a mechanic there gonna take you over the coals for install the book says 4.5 hours to install I did mine in 2.5 hours its not hard to do do you have a buddy that has a garage or even a carport

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I know a few mechanics, if they charge more than 200 I'll just attempt it myself.


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Try that route

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Do not buy anything other than the ford racing part. Spend the extra money the first time and only get the FRPP intake. Felpro gaskets or ford oem gaskets work just fine. Too bad you're all the way in Miami, I'd give you a hand with it all. It wouldn't take more than 2 hours. Remember to torque everything correctly!


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Do not buy anything other than the ford racing part. Spend the extra money the first time and only get the FRPP intake. Felpro gaskets or ford oem gaskets work just fine. Too bad you're all the way in Miami, I'd give you a hand with it all. It wouldn't take more than 2 hours. Remember to torque everything correctly!


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Where can I find the gaskets and how much do they cost usually?


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Any auto parts store will have the gaskets like autozone, advanced, Oreilly's, Napa


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Intake manifold

I just spoke to the mechanic he will charge me 120 for replacing the manifold but he also told me that a bypass would be an option. I'm in Florida no need for heater.
Has anyone done this? Or have knowledge on that?

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If you have the money then just do it right the first time dont start bypassing things make sure he torques it in the correct sequence and the right torque Google will tell you how to torque and sequence

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If you have the money then just do it right the first time dont start bypassing things make sure he torques it in the correct sequence and the right torque Google will tell you how to torque and sequence

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I dont know about bypassing, what's wrong with that?


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I don't know if bypassing will have any effects on the vehicle later but if that's what you gotta do the go ahead but I just wouldn't that's just being me I do it correct the first time and not rig something if I didn't have to

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There it is guys the upper most part , the nipple I believe it's called which is giving nightmares since my wheel day 😐😕


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Well then you need to replace the intake with an frrp intake you need that nipple to flow correctly

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I don't know if bypassing will have any effects on the vehicle later but if that's what you gotta do the go ahead but I just wouldn't that's just being me I do it correct the first time and not rig something if I didn't have to

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I know, I like doing it the right way as well by right now my time is limited with school and work so any way possible to clear some stress for at least a month will be good. But if the manifold is the only option then yes I'll do it. But I would like some knowledge on the bypass and what it is and how it works and if it can last about a month without trouble and done am have to be worried about snapping the hose in the middle of the highway.


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I just spoke to the mechanic he will charge me 120 for replacing the manifold but he also told me that a bypass would be an option. I'm in Florida no need for heater.
Has anyone done this? Or have knowledge on that?

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That's a really good deal!

I don't recommend bypassing the heater because:
1.That won't solve the problem of your hose threatening to pop off at any second!
2. Even if you don't use your heater much, it still helps with the defrost function.
3. Your brittle plastic manifold will likely crack and start leaking in a different spot soon after he "fixes" it.

Don't let this guy talk you into doing anything fancy. Just bring him a new Ford Racing manifold, a set of gaskets, a couple of gallons of anti-freeze, and tell him to put all of that stuff on your car.
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There it is guys the upper most part , the nipple I believe it's called which is giving nightmares since my wheel day 😐😕


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Bypassing means you run a hose from that nipple to the metal coolant pipe under the intake. Mechanic saying you can bypass the intake itself is either an idiot or doesn't understand exactly where your issue lies.
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I only saw one nipple where is the other one

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Op your getting a lot of good advise just hope you make the right decision and do it correctly

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Op your getting a lot of good advise just hope you make the right decision and do it correctly

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Yea my mind has been set on the manifold for a few days now. But the way he said it made it seem like it made sense, however it doesn't sound like it would last very long.


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I believe he said to by pass the two hoses and close off the manifold part. But I don't see how that would work.


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I don't think that would work still requires removing the intake might as well replace place it and not bother with it again

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Don't let that guy near your car... you can't bypass it like he is talking about...
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I believe he said to by pass the two hoses and close off the manifold part. But I don't see how that would work.


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Don't do it Alex!
I'm fairly certain that the heater "circuit" of the cooling system is also used as the coolant bypass on these engines. All engines that have thermostats must have a provision for coolant to "bypass" the thermostat when it is closed, yet remain only in the engine, and still be able to circulate. Without the bypass, uneven cooling will ocurr, and you can get hot spots and steam pockets inside of the water jackets of the engine.
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Ok so for now it's the AM ford racing manifold. What's the difference vs the cheaper one, it says it's a direct replacement of the oem, I just don't see the difference between the two.


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I think that the difference is about 10 or 15 hp between the two. The Dorman manifold more closely resembles the non-PI manifold whereas the Ford Racing is the updated PI manifold.

And don't forget to use the forum discount for AM! There is also a Rockauto discount code in the General Mustang forum.
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The dorman is a basicaly a npi intake and doesnt flow as well. I have read that you can lose between 10-20 hp depending on what info you go by. Its not worth it over saving 50 bucks.

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I think that the difference is about 10 or 15 hp between the two. The Dorman manifold more closely resembles the non-PI manifold whereas the Ford Racing is the updated PI manifold.



And don't forget to use the forum discount for AM! There is also a Rockauto discount code in the General Mustang forum.

So which one is the actual one that comes in the 2v stock, I hope the ford racing is an upgrade of sorts lol. Where can I find the discount for rock auto?


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So which one is the actual one that comes in the 2v stock, I hope the ford racing is an upgrade of sorts lol. Where can I find the discount for rock auto?


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The FRPP is just like the manifold that your car came with when it was new. It's not an upgrade.

Look at it this way... Are you willing to DOWNGRADE some horsepower to save a few dollars using an inferior, outdated manifold?
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And the Rockauto discount code is buried in the General Mustang forum.
Here's the link.
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