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Old 06-22-2015, 11:42 AM   #1
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I'm looking at getting a set of rear lower control arms for my '02 DD. Does anyone have any preferences or any stay-away-from suggestions?

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Get SR upper and lower



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Agreed. Max Motorsports or don't even bother.

The Steeda ones are the only other ones I've had that don't suck but they're not as good as the MM.
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Ok. What is the benefit of poly bushings?


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Ok. What is the benefit of poly bushings?


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Poly is most comfortable.

Prothane is a good middle ground between comfort and stiffness

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Poly is most comfortable.

Prothane is a good middle ground between comfort and stiffness

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Just to touch on the spherical bearings, they have significantly more NHV, but will provide the most control of the rear end of the three.


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Just to touch on the spherical bearings, they have significantly more NHV, but will provide the most control of the rear end of the three.


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Yup. Not many people are willing to run spherical bushings on the street. It's like running solid motor mounts.


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This one that maximum Motorsport offers sold on American muscle here
http://www.americanmuscle.com/maximu...rms-99-04.html
These offer a 3 piece poly bushing on one end and a spherical bearing on the other end. Great compromise and better than poly on both ends.


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Those are what I've got. Great arms.


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Poly is most comfortable.

Prothane is a good middle ground between comfort and stiffness

Spherical = race car



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And I guess the rubber bushings Mustangs come with are softer and cheaper than Poly.


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And I guess the rubber bushings Mustangs come with are softer and cheaper than Poly.


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Exactly and about 2 inches of rear end deflection in turns.


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Except you need that deflection from the upper control arms which is why you should not put anything in to replace the stock uppers. The Steeda car I got has UCAs from them that they put in from the factory. I am going to have to be VERY careful of snap oversteer and suspension bind until I swap the SRA out with an IRS.
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I should be getting mine in possibly August. It would've been next week, but something on the list came up and for a lot cheaper. So that first...


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Lower Control Arms

I've read a few comments saying to KEEP the original upper control arms when replacing the lowers. No one gave a reason for that. Thx!

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are you wanting to do a rear sway bar also?
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That really isn't going to do a whole lot honestly. If the stock one isn't broke... roll with it.
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Except you need that deflection from the upper control arms which is why you should not put anything in to replace the stock uppers. The Steeda car I got has UCAs from them that they put in from the factory. I am going to have to be VERY careful of snap oversteer and suspension bind until I swap the SRA out with an IRS.

^ snap oversteer is a dangerous condition in which the rear end doesn't do what it should. It basically gets away from you and there's almost no way to control it once it's entered snap oversteer. Also the uppers are known to shear the upper control arm mounts out with many upgraded upper control arms. Trust us. Leave the uppers factory.


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Yeah I know but the car came with them like that. I may honestly get a set of stockers out of a wrecked car and swap them in to be safe.
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Yes, but it isn't the one they're suggesting to you. Which my car is strictly a show car, not a race car. I'm looking for some improvement but not anything too extreme. Maximum motorsports is the best no doubt, but a few years back someone gave me a ride in their car. I was impressed with the handling performance. So I'm basically putting everything he did to the suspension, minus a couple of things. I'm having difficulty locating some parts. Hopefully, they're actually out there, and I'm not just searching for something that's no longer on the market...
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Yeah I know but the car came with them like that. I may honestly get a set of stockers out of a wrecked car and swap them in to be safe.

I was referencing your post about the snap oversteer for the OP. I know you know Scotty.


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-I'm planning to keep the rear sway bar. Just install it on the new LCA's.

-The MM Sport LCA runs a little more than I want to spend. I don't have a budget, but don't want to get in trouble with the Mrs. On the other hand, I don't want to have to replace an LCA or bushings in a year or two because the new cheapo bushings failed. I don't drive fast or go to the track, so I should be good with almost any good control arm......
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If you are going "budget" then get the Steeda lowers.
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Yeah I know but the car came with them like that. I may honestly get a set of stockers out of a wrecked car and swap them in to be safe.

You could do a poor mans 3 link for the time being.


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If I was going to stay SRA I'd pop a PHB in there and remove a UCA. But I am going to go IRS with this car. That is hopefully going to be the one thing I buy for myself with next year's tax returns and put the rest in the bank.
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LCA's: here is my current selection thinking. This is only in the order I wrote them on paper as I did my research, so, not in order of fav to nope.

SR: they have good reviews on AM!

J&M #30009: maybe more tuned for drag racing than DD.

Steeda 555-4421: good cause it's Steeda!

UMI Performance 1022-B: from a made-in-America Pennsylvanian suspension company

BBK Gripp: very popular like Steeda.



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Yeah, Steeda if on a budget, MM if you want the best one. The rest are cheap and not recommended.

"Good reviews on AM" should never really be taken without a grain of salt. I'd say most of them are ppl who just got finished installing XYZ product and have not even had a chance to give it a few days/weeks to see how it actually is. That or they have no basis of comparison except vs the stock stuff they removed.
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Reviews?? The review I never can believe on any site is the one where the customer has the product and hasn't used/installed it!!!! Aargh!! They are reviewing that the product arrived undamaged and looks like the web pic, I guess????

Anyway, thanks for the feedback.


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Spherical TeamZ adjustable lowers here , launches good.
Not so street friendly.

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Reviews?? The review I never can believe on any site is the one where the customer has the product and hasn't used/installed it!!!! Aargh!! They are reviewing that the product arrived undamaged and looks like the web pic, I guess????

Anyway, thanks for the feedback.


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That's how it goes most of the time. What the sites should do is make them install the part and test it, before leaving feedback on it. Or give the option of feedback on part's description then another feedback on car's performance before and after install...
And possibly feedback on the installation, of possible tools needed and maybe potential headaches will installing, that aren't mentioned on the site...

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That's how it goes most of the time. What the sites should do is make them install the part and test it, before leaving feedback on it. Or give the option of feedback on part's description then another feedback on car's performance before and after install...
And possibly feedback on the installation, of possible tools needed and maybe potential headaches will installing, that aren't mentioned on the site...

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That won't ever work because the companies love their 5 star "omg this new part got in and look at bling on my car omg TY" and then after a week the person is like "actually this isn't that awesome" but they've already written their review. Also I've written bad reviews on AM before that never showed up. So...
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Key word... "SHOULD"
I know it'll never happen; I know I'm just dreaming...
It would be nice if it did happen...


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That's what google and internet forums are for. You see SR CC plates with what like 5 stars on AM?


Simple google search and a few random forum thread reads will let you know they are huge pieces of ****.
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