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Old 06-27-2015, 04:21 AM   #1
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How much HP?

So how much HP/Torque gain will I get from Underdrive pulleys, throttle body spacer, plenum, 75 mm throttle body, CAI, 3" headers, x pipe, exhaust, ported heads, new intake, stage 2 Cam, 80 shot of nos, and tune with upgraded suspension and tires.
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Depends on what pullies ...
And what locations ..
I know on the Mach 1 .. the march pullies give out 18rwhp

75mm throttle body and matching plenum will give you 6 rwhp

Longtubes probably 5-10 rwhp

Ported heads and cams I can see giving out 60rwhp with the right setup.

80 shot I can see another 50 rwhp


Spacers are a waste of money

With the right dyno tune you can get some good rwhp and rwtq

Suspension will just help get the power to the ground.

Same with good tires.

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Old 06-27-2015, 05:37 AM   #3
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Sorry on a 2001 GT
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They don't sell 3" headers. Even if you did they would decrease performance. . 1 5/8 is big enough to a 3" flange.

Cold air intakes give no power .. they are just for looks.

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Old 06-27-2015, 05:59 AM   #5
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Well these headers I have from Hedman are 3 inch headers.
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Old 06-27-2015, 06:18 AM   #6
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That's impossible , they don't male them that big unless you are referring to the end of them.

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Doing all that to a 2v is a waste of money. Just go with a supercharger and call it done.

Even with all those mods you listed, you likely wouldn't break 300 hp to the wheels. With the 80 shot of nitrous you might make 350 hp at the wheels.

So any ls1 fbody with just full exhaust, a lid and tune or any 5th gen camaro or 2011 and up 5.0 will pull train lengths on you, even with spray. All motor, a 3.7 v6 mustang with a few mods would likely be faster.

As for your 3" headers... no. They are 1.XX" into a 3" collector. If you aren't aware of this, I would not recommend a nitrous setup until you learn more about your car.
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Hm that's not true. He would make around 330-360rwhp with the right setup.
A P1 setup could've put him around 400rwhp I'm sure.

Gen 5 camaros are slow ..
Stockish 5.0s aren't that fast , from exprience.
3.7 can give them trouble , but aren't the fastest rides ..

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Hm that's not true. He would make around 330-360rwhp with the right setup.
A P1 setup could've put him around 400rwhp I'm sure.

Gen 5 camaros are slow ..
Stockish 5.0s aren't that fast , from exprience.
3.7 can give them trouble , but aren't the fastest rides ..

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Last I checked, 350 is between the 330-360 you just mentioned. The less than 300 was all motor.
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Well obviously that's true ...

A 2V isn't a waste of money ..
Not everyone can afford to buy better rides , you just have to work with what you have.

A full bolt on , head/cam 2V should make atleast 330 rwhp , hell btm autosports 2v makes 380rwhp all motor.

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Old 06-27-2015, 08:14 AM   #11
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388rwhp NA 2v

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I make 315 to the wheels all motor.

Xtreme energy comp cams
Ported heads
Throttle body/plenum
Mid length headers
O/r xpipe
Forged bottom end
With only a compression ratio of 8.5

V6 Mustangs and camaros shouldn't be a problem unless they have quite a bit of mods

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Old 06-27-2015, 10:36 AM   #13
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8:5:1 is the problem you don't make a lot of power , once you boost it . It'll be a lot more ofcourse.

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Well obviously that's true ...

A 2V isn't a waste of money ..
Not everyone can afford to buy better rides , you just have to work with what you have.

A full bolt on , head/cam 2V should make atleast 330 rwhp , hell btm autosports 2v makes 380rwhp all motor.

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Bigger question is how much is all that the OP listed going to cost with labor to break 300 whp?? Take the money you would spend and use as down payment with trade on a better platform IMO. Work smarter, not harder...
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:01 AM   #15
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Well that's why you have to man up and do things yourself lol

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Still NA 2v is nothing impressive. Kind of like watching a snail

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Old 06-27-2015, 11:32 AM   #17
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Yeah collector is 3". My main goal is to beat LS cars. And I'm doing as much as I can myself so paying for labor will only be for the mods that I can't do.
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Yeah collector is 3". My main goal is to beat LS cars. And I'm doing as much as I can myself so paying for labor will only be for the mods that I can't do.
Well you will need nitrous or boost.

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Or coyote swap it, better yet Voodoo swap it!


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Old 06-27-2015, 11:49 AM   #20
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Aren't the cobra heads still better than the GT heads even when they are ported?
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03-04 C Heads (4V 32valve) are the top cylinders heads produced through the new edge era..

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the best 2V TFS heads flow 300, the best 4vs flow 340, 40 cfm can be 80 hp. tfs heads compare to stock 4vs, but ported 4vs will always make more power.

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Old 06-27-2015, 12:45 PM   #23
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Which heads/intake combo would you recommend? I obviously couldn't do a GT intake with cobra heads could I? Sorry I don't know much barely starting my research.
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You can do a 4v swap ..
meaning you could slap on cobra heads and nanifold on your GT block .. or mach 1 heads / manifold on your gt block.

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388rwhp NA 2v

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I've been talking with the owner of that car a lot lately. Brett Madsen. Really cool guy, and has really opened my eyes to turning a New Edge into a corner carving beast. To make a 2v have good N/A power you really only have 2 options. Either a big inch set up from a boss block and a stroker for 5.3L, or high compression. Brett is still on stock compression but runs a 13.7:1 Compression Ratio on E85, he also spins the car to the moon.
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Thanks guys I appreciate the help!
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